Tim, The EOR can specify marshmallows as fire protection if he wishes. You can't but he can. Look at the Fed for example. They want IBC and NFPA 101 and the most rigid when there's a conflict. And as their own AHJ they are quite able to dictate thusly. You have the documentation that says this is what he wants. If you're concerned about taking a fall for poor design send him a letter (registered if you're really paranoid with a received return receipt) asking if mix and match is what he really wants. Put a copy, and the receipt, with your paperwork and you've done more than YOUR due diligence, even if he doesn't respond. If you want him to change his mind offer your ideas as an alternative. Maybe it's your birthday and maybe not.
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 8:23 AM, G. Tim Stone <[email protected]> wrote: > Forum, > > > > I am working on a warehouse design utilizing ESFR K25.2 Pendent heads. > > Commodity is Group A expanded, uncartoned plastics, high piled and stored > in-racks. Top of storage [17'-0] AFF. Roof peak is [30-0], 1/4 " / 12" roof > pitch. > > > > Question? Is the following allowed? > > Since the Commodity falls outside the scope of NFPA 13 the specifying Fire > Protection Engineer of record has specified FM guidelines for Design > criteria, 8-9 Table 6 "Ceiling Level Protection Guidelines....." for the > Commodity using ESFR, K25.2, Ceiling Height of 30', K25.2, 12 operating > heads @ 30PSI. But then He specifies NFPA 13 for Spacing and Obstruction > Criteria. The building is up including Lights and HVAC, (YUUCK) and NFPA > 13 criteria is going to be much easier to work with. > > > > I have always been under the impression we design and install to either one > or the other Standard. > > > > I am crazy, but am I on this one? > > > > Regards, > > G. Tim Stone > > > > G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC > > NICET Level III Engineering Technician > > Fire Protection Sprinkler Design > > and Consulting Services > > > > 117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452 > > CELL: (802) 373-0638 TEL: (802) 434-2968 Fax: (802) 434-4343 > > <mailto:[email protected]> > [email protected] > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, inventor and engineer (1876-1958) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
