I'm going to George Church on you Cesar. When you want to change the topic
of a thread in this Forum, please do not tag on to an existing thread on a
different topic, like "Steeply Pitched Roofs" with a backflow question.
Start a new topic thread.


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Cesar Lira <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, everybody.
>
> Where can I use or where INEED to use a back flow preventer there is any
> rule for that???..
>
> Regards..
>
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de Todd
> -
> Work
> Enviado el: jueves, 03 de abril de 2014 02:31 a.m.
> Para: [email protected]
> Asunto: Re: Steeply pitched roof
>
> I ran into this situation with a sanctuary in a historic church several
> years back. The geometry was such that not all of the requirements of NFPA
> 13 could be met. We handled this similar to what has been described here.
>
> Todd G Williams, PE
> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> Stonington, CT
> www.fpdc.com
> 860-535-2080 (ofc)
>
> > On Apr 3, 2014, at 5:19 AM, "Dan Arbel" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Ronald,
> >
> > This is a very old provision.
> >
> > The sprinkler spray is clearly disturbed.
> >
> > Do you know if this provision is based on any test?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > www.riskmanage.com
> > Tel: 972-4-8243337,  972-777-504-011
> > Fax: 972-4-8243278,
> > [email protected]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > Roland Huggins
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 11:26 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Steeply pitched roof
> >
> > I would not focus on the phrase shall be permitted (which taken by
> > itself means optional).  I would focus on the portion that states to
> > maintain a horizontal distance of 24 inches.  Combine this with Figure
> > 8.6.4.1.3.3 that dictates the 4 ft separation is a minimum leads to
> > the interpretation that you must be 2 ft away on each side and you are
> allowed to exceed the 36"
> > vertical maximum to accomplish it.
> >
> > Roland
> >
> >
> > Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
> > American Fire Sprinkler Assn.       ---      Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives
> > Dallas, TX
> > http://www.firesprinkler.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Juan Munguia <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> My opinion is section 8.6.4.1.3.3 requires a minimum horizontal
> >> clearance of 24 inches, and therefore allows the deflector to be
> >> located at a vertical distance greater than 36 inches down from the
> peak.
> >>
> >> Juan Munguia
> >
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