Although I do not think it is expressly stated, I've used the hose durations on 
the determining factor on if I have to go through fire rated walls.  If you 
have a light hazard occupancy with a 30min hose stream duration requirement, I 
don't see why you should be expected to calculate heads on the other side that 
rated wall.  However if you have and OH1 hazard, you should calculate through 
the 1hr rated wall but not a 2+hr rating.

                                          Thanks,

Sean Van Gaal
Project Manager
Nicet III Water-Based System Layout #124801
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Cliff Whitfield
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Remote Area & Walls

Brian,

>From what I remember, it doesn't matter.  Of course, nothing is ever 'black & 
>white' so there could be several scenarios where the fire walls and their 
>rating might matter.  Unless it was going into an area with a different 
>occupancy, I would err on the conservative side and be sure I was using the 
>most demanding area and ignore the walls.

Others may have a more 'un-official' stance or different opinion.

Cliff Whitfield, SET
President
Fire Design, Inc.
Ph: 719-488-3479
 
 

[email protected]
www.fire-design.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Brian Harris
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Remote Area & Walls

Cliff-
What about Fire Rated walls?

Brian Harris, CET
BVS Systems Inc.
bvssytemsinc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Cliff Whitfield
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Remote Area & Walls

Brian,

Don't have the book in front of me, but this is correct.  You would only take 
the interior walls into account if you were using the 'Room Design Method'.

Cliff Whitfield, SET
President
Fire Design, Inc.
Ph: 719-488-3479
 
 

[email protected]
www.fire-design.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Brian Harris
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Remote Area & Walls

Apparently sometime in the night the code gremlins snuck in my office and 
removed pages from my book because I swear I remember reading that when laying 
out the remote area you do not take into account interior walls but now I can't 
find it. Anybody?

Brian Harris, CET
BVS Systems Inc.
Sprinkler Division
bvssystemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/>
Phone: 704.896.9989
Fax: 704.896.1935

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