That's not what it says on the Victaulic Data sheet, want a copy?

> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:15:30 -0400
> Subject: Re: Hooklet tees
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> 
> The "Hookers" were always intended for use installing sprinkler heads only.
> As a short-cut, there were some contractors who took it a step further and
> used them as you have stated, incorrectly.
> 
> Lamar Vaughn
> 
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Ben Young <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > In deference to your 'side-arm' comment Mike, I'm going to give this to our
> > PM and call it a smoking gun!
> >
> > Thanks again for your help and providing the sheet.
> >
> >
> > Benjamin Young
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Mike Hairfield <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Ben,
> > > Look at the Victaulic Sheet page 97 it states that they are UL Listed for
> > > branch connections, arm-overs,side-arms ( they must mean guns here)
> > sprigs,
> > > drop nipples, and direct sprinkler head connections.Suitable hanger
> > support
> > > of branch outlet should be considered to prevent Style 922 rotation.
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 12:44:15 -0400
> > > > Subject: Re: Hooklet tees
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > >
> > > > Mike,
> > > >
> > > > The AHJ is stating that the installation instructions say that they are
> > > not
> > > > to be used for branch line outlets.
> > > > I've always taken that to mean that you can't come off a main and feed
> > > > multiple heads with one hooker.
> > > > The AHJ's interpretation is that this means you cannot come off of a
> > > branch
> > > > line with them... which makes no sense to anyone at my office.
> > > >
> > > > Now, though, after reading the data sheet that Damien linked to, where
> > is
> > > > says that the strap tees are for heads, drops, or gauages, it makes me
> > > > wonder if they don't have a valid point.
> > > > http://www.vikinggroupinc.com/usrelated/vgs/V-723.pdf
> > > >
> > > > We normally use Grinnell 40-5 strap tees, and they specifically say it
> > > can
> > > > be used with full lengths of pipe...
> > > > I've never heard before that you can't (or shouldn't) use strap tees
> > for
> > > > armovers.
> > > > http://www.tyco-fire.com/TD_TFP/TFP/TFP1720_05_2015.pdf
> > > >
> > > > Just as a backstory, this is an existing 10 story building that we're
> > > doing
> > > > basically TFO work for on a few floors.  Another GC with another
> > > sprinkler
> > > > contractor is doing another TFO on another floor in the building, and
> > all
> > > > four companies got put on email blast by the AHJ.
> > > >
> > > > We are about done with our portion of the job, and the hooker fittings
> > > were
> > > > basically used as WOLs for the shell spaces.  Our installers won't
> > touch
> > > > them, though, and we put it new mechanical tees if we need to reuse an
> > > > outlet (or so I'm told)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Benjamin Young
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Mike Hairfield <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > They are Victaulic #922 Hooker Tees.
> > > > > How does the AHJ know that they were not installed properly?
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 11:43:36 -0400
> > > > > > Subject: Hooklet tees
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone have any info on these?  I know our field guys call
> > them
> > > > > hooker
> > > > > > tees, but searching for these things on google has been a
> > minefield.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nothing on Victaulic's website...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just to be clear, I'm talking about the strap-style tee with the
> > > one-side
> > > > > > cast 'hook' that goes around to the back of the piping with the
> > > snap-off
> > > > > > lock bolt.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've always kind of treated them like FIT fittings or roustabouts:
> > > > > > interesting concept, poor execution, and don't touch them if
> > they're
> > > > > > existing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have an AHJ telling us that we have to replace them all on a
> > > tenant
> > > > > > fit-out because they were not installed properly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any help would be appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Benjamin Young
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