Sounds a bit ballistic to me Bruce and Jack but then that might be climate related on my part. After all, the 2nd (and last time) I voted it was for Ross (I quit batting 500).
Glad you're ok Jimmy. Love, brad On Dec 16, 2015 7:54 AM, "Fairchild, Jack" <[email protected]> wrote: > I like it. Add some type of flow meter and do remote testing this way as > well? > > Jack Fairchild > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Verhei > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Drum Drip Valve Guard > > Why not drain the water as it collects, instead of when someone opens the > valve. > > NC solenoid driven valve. 24VDC. 1/8"? Drive off 24v auxiliary power > circuit, through NC relay contacts. > > Four wire cable pulled near, and past, all low point drains. > One wire pair is intelligent circuit, controlled by FACP. Other is the > 24VDC auxiliary power circuit, normally powered. Dropped at alarm. > > (Intelligent) relay control module connected to above four wire cable. > > Dry contacts on relay connected to solenoid. (If necessary add capacitive > sub-circuit to power initial current spike at solenoid operation.) > > Provide programming option > to direct all relay contact modules, and by inference, valves, in sequence. > > Five seconds each round? > Five rounds/day? > Skew towards warmest time of day in coldest month. > > Orifice, frequency, duration arrived at by experimentation and experience, > or stronger powered engineering minds than mine. > > Orifice screened. > > Manual valve provided on horizontal connection on T. Use for initial gross > draining of dry system. > > Blow water out it builds up, drip by drip. Never have enough to freeze and > break fittings. Correct the problem instead of our colleague in Myrtle > Beach ordering 60 x 1" valves each fall. Take the plant maintenance person > out of the process. > > Best > > Bruce > > > On Dec 14, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Cut the problem in half by using half the valves, and none of those > > fighting a losing battle by being closed? > >> On Dec 14, 2015 4:21 PM, "Charles Thurston" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Hello Brad, > >> > >> We have enough trouble in this area getting the maint. guy to drain > >> the ones with 2 valves they can reach and a hand tight plug in the > >> bottom. IF we get 3 days below freezing and then a thaw, we will run > >> 40-60 freeze break calls on the thaw day. > >> > >> That reminds me I need to place our annual order of 60- 1" valves. > >> > >> Monday, December 14, 2015, 3:43:29 PM, you wrote: > >> > >>> I still say we don't need two 1" globe valvles OR any 2" pipe to > >>> make a Drum Drip. > >>> How about a 1" globe at 7' AFF, then 6' of 1" down to a 1x1/2 red. > >>> with > >> a > >>> 1/2" fairly easily removed plug? > >>> In this way, most would-be tamperers would need a ladder and wrench, > >>> and honest workers could use the one valve and one plug to acomplish > >>> the same thing the picture of drum drips in 13 do. > >> > >>> Brad > >>> On Dec 14, 2015 10:40 AM, "Jay Stough" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>>> AGF has a nice setup. We recently installed one of their heated > >>>> drum > >> drips > >>>> where the installing contractor put the drum drip outside. Go to: > >>>> http://www.testandrain.com/documents/products.html#collectandrain > >> > >>>> *Jay Stough* > >>>> NICET IV LAYOUT > >>>> NICET III ITM > >> > >>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Gregory Lindholm > >>>> <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>> Has anybody seen where I could get a guard that would keep people > >>>>> from tampering with drain valves I has seen something quite a few > >>>>> years > >> ago, > >>>> but > >>>>> cannot find out where now. > >>>>> It does not matter if it attaches to the piping, then a lock > >> installed on > >>>>> that, or some type of cage attached to a wall, then a door on that. > >>>>> > >>>>> Greg Lindholm > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprink > >> ler.org > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >> > >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprink > >> ler.org > >> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprink > >> ler.org > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Charles mailto:[email protected] > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprink > >> ler.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > > er.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
