Brad,
Should your post say 8' apart instead of 8"?


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On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Modeled:
> (2) heat detectors, 8" below ceiling, 8" apart, with and without 12" deep
> beam centered between them.
>
> Results without--
> Both near and far side heads activate at 90.5 seconds.
> Margin of error a few tenths of a second.
>
> Results with--
> near side=93.8 seconds.
> far side=115.0 seconds.
> Same margin of error.
>
> Head scratching --
> 1) I doubt in real life two heads 8" apart would activate within tenths of
> a second of each other, my feel is more like a few, enough for one to
> cold-solder the other.
> 2) in a model the spray pattern of a sidewall can be straight out, but in
> real life I think enough would be splashed backward to cause 1).
>
> For 30 years, if I thought beyond what the book said about max deflector
> distance I thought "ok, the heat rises, hits the bottom of the deck, and
> starts coming down, and when this heat gets, say, 12" down the head pops".
> Well, 10 years ago I realized that that is normal-- and the emergency is
> where the heated air is travelling horizontally five to ten feet per second
> across the head.
> 10 years ago is also when I first heard "ceiling jet". I really resented a
> Code Person telling me anything about sprinklers but, after 3 months of
> getting my sprinkler (oops i mean head) around mass and the metric system
> learning the first things about FDS, it started sinking in that the ceiling
> jet is really where is at re: activation.
>
> Brad C
>
> Ps- this new thread is tied to the recent "can sidewalls..." thread.
> Ps2- Ron, I'm not too sick, tired (or lazy), to look stuff up-- i just
> don't have access to commentary, and I was curious, but it can wait.
> Ps3- Ron2-----please don't be a stranger
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