I am feeling the irony of one used to the AHJ viewpoint accused of being to cost conscious. But then when I asked site PE's why they were installing big underground, when small would do, if it met hydraulic needs of designer, I doubt many emailed owner saying City saved them money.
If you have a problem in one apartment building, it is likely you have problems in all or most of a complex. Except for the last buildings the cement can be setting in A, B, C... while you are working in "G". And don't schedule for cold weather season. Best Bruce Verhei > On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:28, Bruce Verhei <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:20, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> That was an O-ring failure Bill, integral to the successful operation, and >> if we were talking about sprinkler O-rings I would agree. >> I have never heard of a nipple and cap being the cause of a catastrophic >> failure. >> I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ here-- I have decided to think about >> everything I do like it was my first day on the job. >> Thanks, >> >> Brad >> >>> On Aug 26, 2016 8:46 PM, "Bill Cunningham" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> The low bidder built the space shuttle Challenger. These things should be >>> included with the bid or design build pricing. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 6:34 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Charles. >>>> I am unable to answer this. >>>> I have always thought flushing was some kind of extreme measure rarely >>>> undertaken even for steel. >>>> >>>>> On Aug 26, 2016 8:21 PM, "Charles Thurston" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hello Brad, >>>>> >>>>> Then add the glue dry time after the flush for putting on a new cap to >>>>> the job before you can put it back in service... Is that really cheaper >>>>> then a groove cap? >>>>> >>>>> Friday, August 26, 2016, 9:09:16 PM, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Friday all day Mark. >>>>> > 'in order to form a more perfect 13' I conclude that a hack saw will >>>>> > more readily remove the fittings at the ends of all CPVC cross mains >>>>> > than whatever it takes to do the same with steel, so, Bruce wins in the >>>>> > catagory of "most economical" with his extra foot of pipe and glue cap >>>>> > entry :) thanks Bruce, and everone else again. >>>>> > On Aug 26, 2016 11:03 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > We stopped using them 7 or 8 years ago based on the cost. I’m working >>>>> > from memory on the cost each. But it is Friday, right? >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Mark at Aero >>>>> > >>>>> > 602 820-7894 >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > From: Sprinklerforum >>>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>> > Timothy Goins >>>>> > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:22 AM >>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>> > Subject: Re: Provision for flushing CPVC >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > I could sell you about three for that price. Check your pricing with >>>>> > your vendor. >>>>> > >>>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:36 PM, <[email protected]> >>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > If you don't mind the cost the grooved adaptor does work, but they are >>>>> > pricey. Around $60 with a grooved coupling and cap! ;-( >>>>> > >>>>> > Mark at Aero >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > 602 820-7894 >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > If that comes in 2" also Timothy I gust might have this now thnx. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Aug 25, 2016 8:52 PM, "Timothy W Goins" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > 1½” grooved adapter with a grooved cap/plug works great. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > From: Sprinklerforum >>>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>> > Bruce Verhei >>>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:12 PM >>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>> > Subject: Re: Provision for flushing CPVC >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > A extra foot of pipe, with glued on cap? >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > On Aug 25, 2016, at 16:50, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > That might be a bingo right there Timothy, thanks! >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Aug 25, 2016 6:47 PM, "Timothy Goins" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > You'd be surprised how much trash and debris gets into a system when >>>>> > the utility company or a plumber is careless. >>>>> > >>>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:12 PM, rongreenman . <[email protected]> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Why would you need to flush CPVC? >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Brad Casterline >>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks Charles. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > I'm just the stocklister at this point Scott :) >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Brad >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > From: Sprinklerforum >>>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>> > Scott Futrell >>>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:40 AM >>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>> > Subject: RE: Provision for flushing CPVC >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Replace them with steel… >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Scott >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Office: (763) 425-1001 x 2 >>>>> > >>>>> > Cell: (612) 759-5556 >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > From: Sprinklerforum >>>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>> > Brad Casterline >>>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:26 AM >>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>> > Subject: Provision for flushing CPVC >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Hello, >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Can someone tell me the most economical way for providing for flushing >>>>> > 1.5" and 2" CPVC mains please? >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > thanks, >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Brad Casterline, NICET IV >>>>> > >>>>> > Fire Protection Division >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > FSC, Inc. >>>>> > >>>>> > P: 913-722-3473 >>>>> > >>>>> > [email protected] >>>>> > >>>>> > www.fsc-inc.com >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Engineering Solutions for the Built Environment >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>>> > [email protected] >>>>> > >>>>> > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Charles mailto:[email protected] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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