I was not referring to a catastrophic failure, I was trying to elude to the fact that the owner paid for a compliant system when it went out to bid, only that upon his first 5 year inspection he had to pay to install caps to perform that task , when they should have been installed the first time. Not doing it right on the installation, gives him a bad taste for the industry. He probably did not want sprinklers in the first place. The AHJ or his insurance company mandated them. We need owners to view us as allies, not money grubbers, to further the industry and life safety. Bill
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> wrote: > > That was an O-ring failure Bill, integral to the successful operation, and if > we were talking about sprinkler O-rings I would agree. > I have never heard of a nipple and cap being the cause of a catastrophic > failure. > I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ here-- I have decided to think about > everything I do like it was my first day on the job. > Thanks, > > Brad > >> On Aug 26, 2016 8:46 PM, "Bill Cunningham" <[email protected]> wrote: >> The low bidder built the space shuttle Challenger. These things should be >> included with the bid or design build pricing. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 6:34 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Charles. >>> I am unable to answer this. >>> I have always thought flushing was some kind of extreme measure rarely >>> undertaken even for steel. >>> >>>> On Aug 26, 2016 8:21 PM, "Charles Thurston" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hello Brad, >>>> >>>> Then add the glue dry time after the flush for putting on a new cap to the >>>> job before you can put it back in service... Is that really cheaper then a >>>> groove cap? >>>> >>>> Friday, August 26, 2016, 9:09:16 PM, you wrote: >>>> >>>> > Friday all day Mark. >>>> > 'in order to form a more perfect 13' I conclude that a hack saw will >>>> > more readily remove the fittings at the ends of all CPVC cross mains >>>> > than whatever it takes to do the same with steel, so, Bruce wins in the >>>> > catagory of "most economical" with his extra foot of pipe and glue cap >>>> > entry :) thanks Bruce, and everone else again. >>>> > On Aug 26, 2016 11:03 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > We stopped using them 7 or 8 years ago based on the cost. I’m working >>>> > from memory on the cost each. But it is Friday, right? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Mark at Aero >>>> > >>>> > 602 820-7894 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > From: Sprinklerforum >>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>> > Timothy Goins >>>> > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:22 AM >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > Subject: Re: Provision for flushing CPVC >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I could sell you about three for that price. Check your pricing with >>>> > your vendor. >>>> > >>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> > On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:36 PM, <[email protected]> >>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > If you don't mind the cost the grooved adaptor does work, but they are >>>> > pricey. Around $60 with a grooved coupling and cap! ;-( >>>> > >>>> > Mark at Aero >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 602 820-7894 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> > On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > If that comes in 2" also Timothy I gust might have this now thnx. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Aug 25, 2016 8:52 PM, "Timothy W Goins" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 1½” grooved adapter with a grooved cap/plug works great. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > From: Sprinklerforum >>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>> > Bruce Verhei >>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:12 PM >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > Subject: Re: Provision for flushing CPVC >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > A extra foot of pipe, with glued on cap? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> > On Aug 25, 2016, at 16:50, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > That might be a bingo right there Timothy, thanks! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Aug 25, 2016 6:47 PM, "Timothy Goins" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > You'd be surprised how much trash and debris gets into a system when the >>>> > utility company or a plumber is careless. >>>> > >>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> > On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:12 PM, rongreenman . <[email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Why would you need to flush CPVC? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Brad Casterline >>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Thanks Charles. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I'm just the stocklister at this point Scott :) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Brad >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > From: Sprinklerforum >>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>> > Scott Futrell >>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:40 AM >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > Subject: RE: Provision for flushing CPVC >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Replace them with steel… >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Scott >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Office: (763) 425-1001 x 2 >>>> > >>>> > Cell: (612) 759-5556 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > From: Sprinklerforum >>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>> > Brad Casterline >>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:26 AM >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > Subject: Provision for flushing CPVC >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Hello, >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Can someone tell me the most economical way for providing for flushing >>>> > 1.5" and 2" CPVC mains please? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > thanks, >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Brad Casterline, NICET IV >>>> > >>>> > Fire Protection Division >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > FSC, Inc. >>>> > >>>> > P: 913-722-3473 >>>> > >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > >>>> > www.fsc-inc.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Engineering Solutions for the Built Environment >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > >>>> > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Charles mailto:[email protected] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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