Is it an XL Gaps or FM job?

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On Jan 13, 2017 7:04 PM, Travis Mack <[email protected]> wrote:
Beam depth keeps me from going up. Already using obstructed beam rules. 18" 
beams. If pipe tight to beam then bottom of pipe is 21.5" and a pendent would 
be about 24" below deck.

I think they need sprigs or arm overs. But before I raise issues about this I 
wanted to be sure others thought it had to have sprigs or arm over as well.

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On Jan 13, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Hinson, Ryan 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

You did not say you could not raise the 3” pipe.  Couldn’t you raise it and put 
pendants in?  Since the piping is obviously exposed, is there any reason you 
can’t comply with deflector-to-deck distances if you do that?  If the pendants 
extending below the piping is a height or exposure-to-mechanical-damage issue, 
install a listed headguard on it.

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Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 5:25 PM
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Subject: Uprights on 3" pipe

In a light or ordinary hazard area, would you be able to justify uprights 
directly on a 3" main?

I have been hired to do the 3D coordination of a project designed by a 
consultant. The consultant indicated uprights directly on the 3" main.

I can justify it in that the main is non-structural and this is a light hazard 
area. However, there is also the section that states you can not put uprights 
on pipe 3" and larger without a sprig or arm over that would comply with the 3x 
rule.

There is no room to lower the pipe and I am semi-restricted from lateral 
movement for various other reasons.

What does the collective wisdom think with this scenario? And I don't need 
formulae with a hundred exponents and variables to figure this out.

Have a great weekend. Thanks in advance.

Travis Mack, SET
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