You mentioned the rule for no upright directly on 3". I am probably way
behind the times but that rule first came about for Large Drop sprinklers.
Does it apply to SSU in LH and OH now?

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On Jan 13, 2017 6:18 PM, "Travis Mack" <[email protected]> wrote:

> No. It is a state government project.
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> On Jan 13, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Mark Phillips <[email protected]>
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> Is it an XL Gaps or FM job?
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> On Jan 13, 2017 7:04 PM, Travis Mack <[email protected]> wrote:
> Beam depth keeps me from going up. Already using obstructed beam rules.
> 18" beams. If pipe tight to beam then bottom of pipe is 21.5" and a pendent
> would be about 24" below deck.
>
> I think they need sprigs or arm overs. But before I raise issues about
> this I wanted to be sure others thought it had to have sprigs or arm over
> as well.
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> On Jan 13, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Hinson, Ryan <[email protected]<mailto:
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> You did not say you could not raise the 3” pipe.  Couldn’t you raise it
> and put pendants in?  Since the piping is obviously exposed, is there any
> reason you can’t comply with deflector-to-deck distances if you do that?
> If the pendants extending below the piping is a height or
> exposure-to-mechanical-damage issue, install a listed headguard on it.
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> Subject: Uprights on 3" pipe
>
> In a light or ordinary hazard area, would you be able to justify uprights
> directly on a 3" main?
>
> I have been hired to do the 3D coordination of a project designed by a
> consultant. The consultant indicated uprights directly on the 3" main.
>
> I can justify it in that the main is non-structural and this is a light
> hazard area. However, there is also the section that states you can not put
> uprights on pipe 3" and larger without a sprig or arm over that would
> comply with the 3x rule.
>
> There is no room to lower the pipe and I am semi-restricted from lateral
> movement for various other reasons.
>
> What does the collective wisdom think with this scenario? And I don't need
> formulae with a hundred exponents and variables to figure this out.
>
> Have a great weekend. Thanks in advance.
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