Yeah...I had some one tell me it was like $5/ft for the materials. Now, using Professor Greenman's qualitative formula, it would be about $10/ft + all the extras :-) I don't know how accurate or not, but that sure would keep me from doing an entire system in it.

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On 6/13/2017 3:08 PM, rongreenman . wrote:
Just figure a lot per foot, double it, and then add on the extras.

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Art Tiroly <atir...@atcofirepro.com <mailto:atir...@atcofirepro.com>> wrote:

    Thanks.

    How do you determine the cost of operating a heat trace system?

    That is important to convey

    Ary

    *From:*Sprinklerforum
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    <mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>] *On
    Behalf Of *Jeff Normand
    *Sent:* Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:27 PM
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    *Subject:* Re: Heating cable and 1" wrap.

    If ceiling is too costly wait until you see the price of heat
    tracing an entire system.

    On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Art Tiroly
    <atir...@atcofirepro.com <mailto:atir...@atcofirepro.com>> wrote:

    They need store packaging material, idle pallets.

    Ceiling is also too costly.

    Art

    *From:*Sprinklerforum
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    <mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>] *On
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    *Sent:* Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:16 PM
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    *Subject:* RE: Heating cable and 1" wrap.

    What are they storing?

    Could they put in a false ceiling?

    Matt

    *From:*Sprinklerforum
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    <mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>] *On
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    *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
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    *Subject:* Heating cable and 1" wrap.

    I have a client that is renovating an uninsulated 30,000 SF shed
    warehouse.

    He does not want to heat the building.

    Dry system requirements for solid piled storage over 25Ft high in
    35 Ft. high building are not available.

    I am pushing for an ESFR wet system in a heated building.

    Rather than heating an uninsulated building owner suggests we heat
    the sprinkler pipe with heat cable and 1” insulation.

    This method is in 13. Tyco has a system to apply heating cable to
    branch lines and cross mains.

    In over 50 years I have never seen or heard of heat tracing being
    done. I think it is a mistake due to reliability and cost

    There must be reasons this heating method is not being installed
    on a sprinkler system.

    What arguments can I use to avoid this method of keeping a wet
    grid system from freezing.

    Art Tiroly

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