One other thing to watch – if they are considering the S2 and R occupancies to 
be separate buildings based on a horizontal assembly – IBC 510.2 requires that 
the lower areas have sprinklers – no NFPA 13 q’s needed. I got hung up on that 
one recently.

Matt


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Subject: RE: Covered Parking in 13R

Check with the AHJ. I’m not sure you can change from 13 to 13R in the same 
building. You can use residential rules in a 13 system of course. Do you have 
combustible concealed spaces in the residential?


Art Tiroly
ATCO Fire Protection/Tiroly
24400 Highland Rd CLE 44143
216-621-8899
216-570-7030 cell



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I think so. I have 2 just like this that I am figuring this way....13 R 
upstairs NFPA Parkling downstairs.


John W. Farabee

561-707-5150



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Residential use above a parking garage changes the occupancy requirement to a 
mixed use and NFPA 13 design criteria is required. Therefore protect the 
garage. Am I on the right track here?





Art Tiroly

ATCO Fire Protection/Tiroly

24400 Highland Rd CLE 44143

216-621-8899

216-570-7030 cell







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I have a 3-story, 13R building. Type IIB construction. On the “engineered” bid 
set, no sprinklers are shown in the covered parking area. This area is inside 
the footprint of the first floor, with 2nd floor units being located above the 
parking area. There are no garage doors and the parking spaces are not 
separated. To sprinkle or not to sprinkle?







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