“... if you don’t want liability, then don’t do construction.” Well said, my friend.
-Kyle M > On Oct 8, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Ben Young via Sprinklerforum > <sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > > As a former contractor who now works for an engineering firm, I think it > sounds like everyone is being a little bit hard headed on this. > > I think the requirement for complete submittals can get a little asinine > especially when, as John said, its due in two weeks. And John, I wish they > said only material submittals in two weeks lol. I get not wanting drips and > drabs of material submittals, but its perfectly fine and reasonable to > expect and accept a standalone complete material submittal. Technically, if > you don't have approved material submittals back, how is the > designer/contractor supposed to know which products to use and to put in > their details? I try to only use that excuse when someone is being > particularly picayune. I don't know if engineers and GCs use the material > submittals as a kind of bowl of green M&Ms thing or if they genuinely > believe that my non UL listed rod (yes, I've had material rejected for that > before) is going to make the building fall down. But when you don't pick > your fights on this kind of stuff, you're just creating an unnecessarily > hostile environment. > > On the engineering side, I've learned about having to leave cushion in my > design exactly so no one owns a 300k boat anchor. I do permit level > submittals, but our company does not favor any manufacturer over another if > a client doesn't and it always amuses me when the fire marshal will ask me > for a pump submittal. Like dude, this is a deferred submittal, I don't even > talk to pump reps, c'mon! But I still make sure I size that pump for best > and worst case water scenarios. Its like a foam system kind of in that > regard. At least that's the way I think of it. > > And if you don't want liability, then don't do construction. Subrogation > means we're all getting sued, so that's a BS excuse to not at least try and > help the project forward. > > But examining the water supply and detailing what can be used for calcs or > pumps is 100% the engineer's job. If they aren't doing flow tests and > talking to water purveyors before they give something for bid, then you > honestly need a better fire protection engineer. > > > Benjamin Young > > >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 2:08 PM Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum < >> sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: >> >> Yeah, see that's the thing this project is not your normal simple COSCO or >> Motel 6 job. More like a quasi-government project with specialty systems >> with unique requirements drives doing a design and calc before you select >> this pump. >> >> Regardless of this situation, I am not signing off on any pump selection >> until it's been proven to meet the system design criteria. Once I've >> signed off, it's considered approved and if it turns out to be wrong, the >> fingers will point back to my approval. >> >> Thanks for the insight. >> >> Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | >> craig.pr...@jacobs.com | >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jacobs.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=Z_2A85VL7AQzoqudh6uOyS3bn8etxB7nLN8OBJwQd9A&m=2ySD1F-Ni4zqee505ETEifp1dq4OTbdpJXcAmb_8t4w&s=OmTm-YSkB7LhnkK5iWpNypCcKJP2cI2IQD2cmCKpZJk&e= >> >> 1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> On >> Behalf Of Sean.VanGaal via Sprinklerforum >> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 1:18 PM >> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >> Cc: Sean.VanGaal <svang...@aerofire.com> >> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Submittal Packages >> >> Craig, I don't think it is as black/white as you make it sound. >> >> Sizing a fire pump for a project that is non-high rise and sprinklers only >> (no standpipes) is not complicated once you have the water supply info. >> Almost all designers who are experienced enough to design a fire pump are >> probably experienced enough to estimate a system water demand for their >> system. Worst case scenario of Density x Base remote area size + some >> overages. ESFR sprinkler flow x 12 plus some overages. If you have hose >> station figure inside hose, otherwise hoses don't affect the pump. Those >> ballpark calculations give you the demand flow of the pump. Then if you >> have your water supply results, you know your finished floor elevation >> relative to you flow test, and you know the maximum pressure of your system >> (175?), then you can easily size a pump to not churn over your maximum >> pressure. You can get material cuts from your vendor, send them in for >> approval and electrical verification, and order the pump. Then on the back >> end you design the pipe sizes for your sprinkler system to match the pump >> you are installing. >> >> Some warehouse projects have extremely fast schedules. Sprinkler >> contractors are not brought in early enough in some cases. So we need to >> order a fire pump early so it shows up in time and the owner is barking at >> us that every day his building isn't open he is losing thousands of >> dollars. By ordering the pump early you save project schedule as your lead >> time is being spent performing the sprinkler design rather than pushing >> everything to the end. >> >> Now, where I do partially agree is if you have a high-rise or standpipe >> system. Then you need to perform some piping layout and calculations to >> properly size your fire pump to get the appropriate pressure up to the >> roof. However these again, you don't need to wait until the whole building >> is fully designed. You design your highest demand system (typically >> standpipe calc at the roof), then determine the pump size accordingly based >> on your water supply info. A high rise building could take over a year >> from design award to completion, but you can have the fire pump sized and >> out for approval within a week or two. Now this scenario is typically more >> complex with a lot of moving pieces, so it is normally submitted all in one >> package. But the warehouse scenario I outlined above should be perfectly >> reasonable to size your pump the day you get the job. >> >> I do not recommend ordering a pump without some sort of approval from the >> Architect and/or their Engineer. I am only pointing out that in some cases >> you should be able to get this info in front of them early with high level >> of confidence that there will not be any changes even though you haven't >> drawn a single sprinkler or pipe. >> >> My opinion only. >> >> Thanks, >> Sean VG >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> On >> Behalf Of Kevin Hall via Sprinklerforum >> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:56 AM >> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >> Cc: Kevin Hall <kh...@firesprinkler.org> >> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Submittal Packages >> >> The water supply is the responsibility of the owner/owner’s agent >> (Engineer of record). That includes the fire pump sizing. As the engineer >> of record, it would be up to you to use your engineering judgement to size >> an appropriate fire pump to supply the system. You can’t wait until the >> system is layed out to pick a pump. The contractor should not be making >> that determination unless they want to assume the risk of the EOR. >> >> Look at the requirements for the owners certificate. All that should be >> provided to the installing contractor before they can begin their work. >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 12:39 PM Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum < >> sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: >> >>> You cannot select a fire pump when no water flow test has been done, >>> you don’t have anything designed and you only have preliminary >>> selection information. Not happening on my watch. >>> >>> Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 >>> | craig.pr...@jacobs.com<mailto:craig.pr...@jacobs.com> | >>> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jacobs.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=XSIweKhAHHhyB-d63TCLaTQ55VHpbhIhFOxEPFjbNpg&m=zx0bFeqY6zhw5iY7qw3gCbVCIz7a6UT7LKNsH0ZvAOo&s=4TcxLdRu_sRx6O_jDENfjkj5suSe9ZRqhVN7ix8kCKc&e= >> < >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jacobs.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=XSIweKhAHHhyB-d63TCLaTQ55VHpbhIhFOxEPFjbNpg&m=zx0bFeqY6zhw5iY7qw3gCbVCIz7a6UT7LKNsH0ZvAOo&s=sDrOte77HHuJEXJI6WZvXLjbP5WopARdF-z-U-a1eiQ&e= >>> >>> 1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606 >>> >>> From: John Denhardt <jdenha...@firesprinkler.org> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:11 PM >>> To: Hinson, Ryan <rhin...@burnsmcd.com> >>> Cc: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org; Prahl, Craig/GVL < >>> craig.pr...@jacobs.com> >>> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Submittal Packages >>> >>> Agree however, long lead items like fire pump systems might need to be >>> released early to meet project schedules. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> John >>> >>> [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_ >>> s_g4h8r7hdtsr6154_AFSA-5FL.png-3Fraw-3D1&d=DwIGaQ&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0 >>> _DIA&r=XSIweKhAHHhyB-d63TCLaTQ55VHpbhIhFOxEPFjbNpg&m=zx0bFeqY6zhw5iY7q >>> w3gCbVCIz7a6UT7LKNsH0ZvAOo&s=gi-Ba8FNfPfUsHNMboxxXzXTl-SViRMf0QISCuFI6 >>> YY&e= ] John August Denhardt, PE Vice President, Engineering and >>> Technical Services American Fire Sprinkler Association >>> m: p: >>> 301-343-1457 >>> 214-349-5965 ext 121 >>> w: >>> firesprinkler.org< >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/firesprinkler.org__;!!B5cixuoO7ltTeg >>> !S5UQwTrw04donSOyX3o9ixqH1mdPsCfHe5uqF5z98aKbUxsJIRs0sYMvEVqICIpuRg$ >>>> >>> [ >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cdn2.hubspot.net_h >>> ubfs_184235_dev-5Fimages_signature-5Fapp_facebook-5Fsig.png&d=DwIGaQ&c >>> =wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=XSIweKhAHHhyB-d63TCLaTQ55VHpbhIhFOxEPFjbNpg& >>> m=zx0bFeqY6zhw5iY7qw3gCbVCIz7a6UT7LKNsH0ZvAOo&s=n3qgw5e00wzBphYmAWg6Sz >>> EVinI9HUQ9bSZuFWd05Hk&e= >>> ]< >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/ >>> __;!!B5cixuoO7ltTeg!S5UQwTrw04donSOyX3o9ixqH1mdPsCfHe5uqF5z98aKbUxsJIR >>> s0sYMvEVqs4BZvmQ$> >>> [ >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cdn2.hubspot.net_h >>> ubfs_184235_dev-5Fimages_signature-5Fapp_twitter-5Fsig.png&d=DwIGaQ&c= >>> wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=XSIweKhAHHhyB-d63TCLaTQ55VHpbhIhFOxEPFjbNpg&m >>> =zx0bFeqY6zhw5iY7qw3gCbVCIz7a6UT7LKNsH0ZvAOo&s=QupAw4lCVlSVavoV64nIMQj >>> jVR1HnGHvhm9rpaL8i3w&e= ] < >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/twitter.com/afsa/status/10395283453 >>> 67732224__;!!B5cixuoO7ltTeg!S5UQwTrw04donSOyX3o9ixqH1mdPsCfHe5uqF5z98a >>> KbUxsJIRs0sYMvEVoWx9VO1A$> >>> [ >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cdn2.hubspot.net_h >>> ubfs_184235_dev-5Fimages_signature-5Fapp_linkedin-5Fsig.png&d=DwIGaQ&c >>> =wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=XSIweKhAHHhyB-d63TCLaTQ55VHpbhIhFOxEPFjbNpg& >>> m=zx0bFeqY6zhw5iY7qw3gCbVCIz7a6UT7LKNsH0ZvAOo&s=SzNIFxIHOys97S34rP2Q8H >>> ZPx7swfLoLA3D3QkY--Sg&e= ] < >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.linkedin.com/company/american-f >>> ire-sprinkler-association-afsa-/__;!!B5cixuoO7ltTeg!S5UQwTrw04donSOyX3 >>> o9ixqH1mdPsCfHe5uqF5z98aKbUxsJIRs0sYMvEVpRsoTjNQ$> >>> [ >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cdn2.hubspot.net_h >>> ubfs_184235_dev-5Fimages_signature-5Fapp_instagram-5Fsig.png&d=DwIGaQ& >>> c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=XSIweKhAHHhyB-d63TCLaTQ55VHpbhIhFOxEPFjbNpg >>> &m=zx0bFeqY6zhw5iY7qw3gCbVCIz7a6UT7LKNsH0ZvAOo&s=Yo4YC1iERC7enrmCnQYmG >>> ZhIweE6KSVlT8AUurGzGOQ&e= ] < >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.instagram.com/firesprinklerorg/ >>> __;!!B5cixuoO7ltTeg!S5UQwTrw04donSOyX3o9ixqH1mdPsCfHe5uqF5z98aKbUxsJIR >>> s0sYMvEVrJjynI2Q$ >>>> >>> Our members are at the heart of everything we do. >>> Don’t miss another issue! >>> Sign up to get your exclusive copy of the industry’s leading >>> membership magazine Sprinkler Age delivered straight to your mailbox, >> inbox, or both! >>> Subscribe< >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/sprinklerage.com/subscribe/__;!!B5c >>> ixuoO7ltTeg!S5UQwTrw04donSOyX3o9ixqH1mdPsCfHe5uqF5z98aKbUxsJIRs0sYMvEV >>> qu7AWLHQ$> now to get the latest information you need to know and >>> never miss another issue. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 11:59 AM Hinson, Ryan <rhin...@burnsmcd.com >> <mailto: >>> rhin...@burnsmcd.com>> wrote: >>> It's very difficult to efficiently review a project when submittals >>> come in piecemeal. Inevitably, things get missed and resubmittals of >>> such partial submittals only complicate matters. Though there are >>> always exceptions, we require complete (re)submittals with shop >>> drawings complying with NFPA working plans requirements, quality >>> annotated cutsheets clearly indicating any selected/elected options, >>> along with the hydraulic calculations in accordance with NFPA hydraulic >> calculation procedures. >>> Incomplete submittals are rejected without review. We also require >>> each review comment of a submittal to be addressed in a returned >>> written response letter accompanying the resubmittal. >>> >>> We've had success when this is stated up front in bid documents and >>> plan review generally goes much quicker and with less headache. >>> >>> Ryan L. Hinson, PE*, SET** \ Burns & McDonnell Senior Fire >>> Protection Engineer O 952-656-3662 \ M 763-688-4045 \ F 952-229-2923 >>> rhin...@burnsmcd.com<mailto:rhin...@burnsmcd.com> \ burnsmcd.com< >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/burnsmcd.com__;!!B5cixuoO7ltTeg!S5UQ >>> wTrw04donSOyX3o9ixqH1mdPsCfHe5uqF5z98aKbUxsJIRs0sYMvEVomaeod3w$ >>>> >>> 8201 Norman Center Drive, Suite 500 >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_m >>> aps_search_8201-2BNorman-2BCenter-2BDrive-2C-2BSuite-2B500-3Fentry-3Dg >>> mail-26source-3Dg&d=DwIGaQ&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=XSIweKhAHHhyB-d6 >>> 3TCLaTQ55VHpbhIhFOxEPFjbNpg&m=zx0bFeqY6zhw5iY7qw3gCbVCIz7a6UT7LKNsH0Zv >>> AOo&s=9tVIQ169MbLVdWDB6jO0gqKRPebIkv3xtxnMbsU2E6o&e= > \ >>> Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN 55437 *Registered in: LA, MD, MN, PA, TX, & >>> UT **NICET IV - Water-Based Systems Layout >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org >>> <mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>> On Behalf Of >>> Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum >>> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:41 AM >>> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto: >>> sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> >>> Cc: Prahl, Craig/GVL >>> <craig.pr...@jacobs.com<mailto:craig.pr...@jacobs.com>>; >>> John Denhardt <jdenha...@firesprinkler.org<mailto: >>> jdenha...@firesprinkler.org>> >>> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Submittal Packages >>> >>> John, I have that requirement in big bold letters in several places >>> in the specs but have had a contractor ask to submit components >>> including the fire pump even before the first pipe has been placed on a >> drawing. >>> >>> I was told this is how they've been doing it for decades. Just wanted >>> to see what the industry consensus was. >>> >>> Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 >>> | craig.pr...@jacobs.com<mailto:craig.pr...@jacobs.com> | >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam05.safelinks.p >>> rotection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fwww.jacobs.com-252F- >>> 26amp-3Bdata-3D02-257C01-257Crhinson-2540burnsmcd.com-257C5ca87af7c382 >>> 44f427b108d86ba08957-257Cbfbb9a2b6d994e78b3c795005d555c8b-257C0-257C1- >>> 257C637377684527248653-26amp-3Bsdata-3D3aGT7kLeKIbnZg4TvDPBxUoz195Nl4J >>> -252BkvETIT7u-252F50-253D-26amp-3Breserved-3D0&d=DwIGaQ&c=wn3mZQLIuInh >>> 2ClcJ0_DIA&r=XSIweKhAHHhyB-d63TCLaTQ55VHpbhIhFOxEPFjbNpg&m=zx0bFeqY6zh >>> w5iY7qw3gCbVCIz7a6UT7LKNsH0ZvAOo&s=4LLVrfsZJBFVEAy_W3G5FiFN5MyvpvRfOzB >>> n-XGZrK8&e= >>> < >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook. >>> com/?url=http*3A*2F*2Fwww.jacobs.com*2F&data=02*7C01*7Crhinson*40b >>> urnsmcd.com*7C5ca87af7c38244f427b108d86ba08957*7Cbfbb9a2b6d994e78b3c79 >>> 5005d555c8b*7C0*7C1*7C637377684527248653&sdata=3aGT7kLeKIbnZg4TvDP >>> BxUoz195Nl4J*2BkvETIT7u*2F50*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl! >>> !B5cixuoO7ltTeg!S5UQwTrw04donSOyX3o9ixqH1mdPsCfHe5uqF5z98aKbUxsJIRs0sY >>> MvEVrYdZXNrg$ >>>> >>> 1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org >>> <mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>> On Behalf Of >>> John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum >>> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 11:32 AM >>> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto: >>> sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> >>> Cc: John Denhardt <jdenha...@firesprinkler.org<mailto: >>> jdenha...@firesprinkler.org>> >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Submittal Packages >>> >>> I have seen both. I prefer the entire package. 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