My old Fire stick tells me, 2" copper tubing @ 324 GPM using C=150 loses around 
.66 PSI/foot @ 31 ft/sec.
Is that 324 GPM with or without hose streams?

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Brian,

Was the 324 GPM @ 46 PSI at the base of the riser?
You will want to push for 4" Class 52 Ductile Iron. At a 100'  the pressure 
drop will be 29 PSI.


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G. Tim Stone

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Tim-
Yikes!! I'm working on getting that info now. Thank you.

Brian Harris, CET
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: 2" Underground

Brian,

We need a little mor information about the Underground.

I ran a Calculation based on 100' of 2" Type M Copper flowing 324 GPM.
This created 88 PSI pressure loss.
Regards,
G. Tim Stone

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From: Brian Harris <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 8:46 AM
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] 2" Underground

Been asked to verify a 2" underground supply will work for a NFPA-13 Dry system 
for a small Patio/Bar. Water supply is good, S=114 / R=106 / F=1556. 
Preliminary numbers I've ran show a system demand of 324gpm @ 46psi. That's 
assuming a 10psi loss for underground pipe (BFP is 10 as well), the loss for 2" 
underground is the part I'm not real comfortable about. Any thoughts?

Brian Harris, CET
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