Does this only happen when you take the pump to 150%?


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From: Fpdcdesign <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2025 10:17 AM
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: [EXTERNAL] Backflow turbulence

The water supply tested in the street to 38 psi with less than 5 ft elevation 
to the pump room. The suction pressure they are getting during the pump test is 
15

Todd Williams
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On Jun 24, 2025 at 11:39 AM, <Craig Prahl<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Are suction pressures low due to the water supply?  Since there is a BFP, I 
assume you’re drawing from a city service, correct?  Got any data on that 
system?

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From: Fpdcdesign <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Sprinklerforum] Backflow turbulence

I am working on an untestable fire pump with an “N” shaped RPZ in the suction 
line. They (just) have the 10X diameter distance on the feed, but the suction 
pressures are very low (15 psi). It seems that an “N” shaped device would 
create a lost
I am working on an untestable fire pump with an “N” shaped RPZ in the suction 
line. They (just) have the 10X diameter distance on the feed, but the suction 
pressures are very low (15 psi). It seems that an “N” shaped device would 
create a lost more turbulence than a standard straight one. Consequently, 
should the distance of straight pipe requirement be greater for this 
arrangement?

Todd G Williams, PE
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