Where are you reading 15-psi?

If it’s before the RPZ backflow preventer, then check with the local water 
utilities to see what they recommend. Creating pressure below 20-psi in the 
city supply is not a good condition. 

If it’s after the backflow preventer at the pump suction flange, then I don’t 
think it’s a problem as long as you don’t drop below 0-psi. 

Just my honest opinion
Rick Matsuda 

> On Jun 24, 2025, at 11:20 AM, Christopher S. Wilson <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Does this only happen when you take the pump to 150%?
>  
> 
> 
> Christopher S. Wilson
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> From: Fpdcdesign <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2025 10:17 AM
> To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: [EXTERNAL] Backflow turbulence
>  
> The water supply tested in the street to 38 psi with less than 5 ft elevation 
> to the pump room. The suction pressure they are getting during the pump test 
> is 15
>  
> Todd Williams 
> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> Stonington, CT
> 860-608-4559
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 24, 2025 at 11:39 AM, <Craig Prahl> wrote:
> 
> Are suction pressures low due to the water supply?  Since there is a BFP, I 
> assume you’re drawing from a city service, correct?  Got any data on that 
> system? 
>  
> Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Fire Protection SME – EV, AM, DC, Special Hazards
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>  
> From: Fpdcdesign <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2025 10:45 AM
> To: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Sprinklerforum] Backflow turbulence
>  
> I am working on an untestable fire pump with an “N” shaped RPZ in the suction 
> line. They (just) have the 10X diameter distance on the feed, but the suction 
> pressures are very low (15 psi). It seems that an “N” shaped device would 
> create a lost
> I am working on an untestable fire pump with an “N” shaped RPZ in the suction 
> line. They (just) have the 10X diameter distance on the feed, but the suction 
> pressures are very low (15 psi). It seems that an “N” shaped device would 
> create a lost more turbulence than a standard straight one. Consequently, 
> should the distance of straight pipe requirement be greater for this 
> arrangement? 
>  
> Todd G Williams, PE
> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> Stonington, CT
> 860-535-2080 (ofc)
> 860-554-7054  (fax)
> 860-608-4559 (cell)
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