[ On Fri, January 22, 1999 at 13:17:45 (EST), Jeffrey Altman wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: How do I sz/rz under an ssh connection?
>
> Besides, ssh is supposed to be able to replace rlogin and I can use
> Kermit to make a 'login' connection using the sub-process mechanism in
> C-Kermit to start rlogin.
Using kermit with rlogin is just as silly as using kermit with ssh.
Both "scp/ssh" and "rcp/rsh" are prefectly adequate and sufficiently
*complete* user interfaces to their respective file transfer and remote
job submission protocols.
Using SSH to tunnel a kermit connection, while rather bizzare and
unnecessary and possibly even counter-productive thing to do, has the
effect that one need only enter one's authentication once, and
guarantees that all data passed over the network by kermit will be
encrypted. Using "ssh" as the communications channel for kermit would
do the same, but seems even less logical thing for an SSH user to do
since SSH should already do everything they need to do.
(I still don't see how, from either the manual page or the on-line help,
that I can even tell kermit to popen("ssh") and use that as the
communications channel.)
In any case, why don't you post patches to SSH that allow it to work
without a controlling terminal when it doesn't need to request a
password from the user? (or perhaps you or someone else has and I
missed seeing them...)
Alternately why don't you change kermit so that it has all the smarts
about how to invoke ssh with appropriate port forwarding so that the
user need only "SET NETWORK TYPE SSH" and "CONNECT"?
Even better why not implement the SSH-v2 protocol right in Kermit and it
could be the SSH client of choice for the masses?
--
Greg A. Woods
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