[ On Mon, January 18, 1999 at 15:25:39 (EST), Jeffrey Altman wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: How do I sz/rz under an ssh connection?
>
> want to.  But for the rest of us who are used to typing 
> 
>   kermit -s <file>
>   kermit -g <file>
>   sz <file>
> 
> it is perfectly okay for us to continue doing so.

I know that kermit can work well and transparently through an existing
SSH "login" session (though I suspect the buffering parameters might
best be tuned carefully to attain the best throughput and to prevent
thrashing against the windowing of SSH and TCP/IP).  I think I was
careful not to mention kermit as one of those "silly redundant
protocols", though to some extent the implication was there and was
intended.

It seems that trying to use rz/sz over SSH is much harder than using
kermit, but then that's always been the case no matter what the
communications path!  ;-)

However what you've said fits right in with what I was saying about how
people can get fixated on the old paradigms that might have been imposed
on them by tools that they once used and not break out of their shells
and make use of the much wider variety of tools that are available to
them in new environments.  Using some "old-fashioned" file transfer
protocol intended originally for use over dedicated and often unreliable
connections (such as modems, serial cables, etc.) is one such fixation.

That said, it would be nice if kermit could make use of SSH tunnels
though (I looked briefly at C-Kermit 6.0(192) but couldn't see a way to
do that...) such as in the same way one might use rdist over SSH (in
which case kermit could automatically treat the tunnel as a plain old
highly reliable pipe and not bother to do any protocol goop).

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