Hallo Graham and Tony D. Blast it, my Steam Worlds only go back to the beginning of 2000 so I don't have issue146 dated august1999 with the article you mention. --so sorry. My friend in England sent me Steam Days until the end of 99.
My apologies. Geoff. Hi Geoff > Thanks for looking in your collection ;; never thought you would have that >magazine in CA . > There are quite a few refurbished engines in this issue and is interesting >to compare ( ie ) to what we are talking about. > To be honest im trying to make an excuse for not succeeding in getting the >same finish on my engines as Aster . > > Regards > > Graham S . >----- Original Message ----- >From: Geoff Spenceley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:21 PM >Subject: Re: Flying Scotsman > > >> I may have the Aug 99 Steam World-I shall check my archives for Tony. >> >> Geoff. >> >> Hi Tony. >> > Thanks for you very interesting comments about pre nationalized >> >british railways ;;; sounds as if you lived in the UK for a considerable >> >time ? . >> > I agree with your comments about cleaning surfaces for inspection >> >purposes / also / about tinplate toys;;wich is exactly what I was talking >> >about with Aster locos in my view wich may not be everybodys view they >look >> >to tinlatish to me . >> > No tony I do not remember pre nationalized rail I was talking about >> >nationalized british rail ;; its a pity you can not get the Steam world >> >magazine issue146 dated august1999 ;; on pages 8 & 9 it shows exactly >what I >> >am remembering and talking about ( a black five just out of the fitting >shop >> >, a buitifull shiny black with a rough undersurface ) . >> > With regards to your comment about preserved locos in my opinion >again >> >its my opinion ;;they look wonderful and shows the pride of the >> >preservationists. >> > >> > Thanks again Tony nice to chat with you >> > >> > Regards. >> > >> > Graham S . >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: Anthony Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 4:36 PM >> >Subject: Re: Flying Scotsman >> > >> > >> >> Hi Graham, >> >> To weather or not to weather, is that is the question!. >> >> On the contrary. The 1/1 Scale correctly repainted finishes >produced >> >> after overall rebuilds I have seen during the years, were exceptionally >> >> smooth, together with a high "glossy" finish. Regardless of the >subject. >> >> I suggest any 1/1 Scale "overpainted surface roughness" seen, was >a >> >> result of plating surface erosion not being ground out before gloss >> >> overpaint is added. i.e. a quick and cheap repaint job to disguise >> >> potential metal surface defects, protect a pre-rusting area, thin >plates, >> >> to hide potential problems, keep running at all costs theory and not >due >> >to >> >> "rough paint". >> >> When the various earlier rail companies in the UK, LMS,LNER, GWR >and >> >> Southern were in direct competition for travellers, up to the late 30s >and >> >> 40s, they took great pride in the daily cleaning, inspection and >quarterly >> >> maintenance repainting programs. Surface grinding to bare metal was a >> >> necessity to ensure true inspection of possible underlaying long term >> >metal >> >> weathering problems. Or, the smooth metal surfaces were already new >> >> replacement plates. As a result, the repainted surfaces were also very >> >smooth. >> >> During these times up to the late 1950s, a railway apprentice had >to >> >> spend his initial 2 years specifically cleaning engines daily, before >he >> >> was allowed into the paint, maintenance, fitting or machining shops, >and >> >> later into firing duties. So there was plenty of cheap labour around to >> >> keep running engines cleaned/polished almost daily. >> >> >> >> However, most recently, many of the "Heritage Societies" seem to >be >> >> going a little overboard in achieving a museum quality "glossiness" on >> >> their total rebuilds. So maybe the theory still is that an extremely >> >> glossy finish does attract more customers, is easier to keep clean, >easier >> >> to recognize potential underlaying plating problems, as per the early >LMS, >> >> LNER days. But now gives an almost "toylike" tin plate finish. >> >> And we do not want our working scale model 1/32, 10mm or G1 Live >> >> Steamers to look like toy tin plate engines do we?. >> >> Alternatively a "orange peel" finish on a 1/32 scale live steamer >> >> scaled up to 1/1 may give the ''very rough" full size finish you saw. >i.e. >> >> scale erosion!. >> >> Regards, >> >> Tony D. >> >> >> >> >> >
