Hey Tony et al, My apologies, I read the column for the Star (early GWR 4-6-0 class) in the table rather than the King class, The 4-row super King lists as 90.5 tons--close enough. Engine with tender 137.2tons. Shows all the dimensions too! Thanks for correcting me!
Vera Lynn, Gracie Fields ( Oot in the cold cold snow-o-o!) I could go on, and on. How about George Formby???!! Pantomime!! ah, the pleasures of my childhood!-and-they still have 'em! Enough! Geoff. Hi Geoff, > Did not realize you had changed thought tracks from Scotsman scale >weight to the KGV. Sorry I did not catch your drift. > Anyway, my Ian Allan Locospotters reference book actually quotes the >King Class at 89 Tons for the engine, plus 46 Tons 14 cwt for the tender = >135 Tons 14Cwt = 304,068lbs. > Which puts the King's approx 17 Ton lighter than the A3,s. > > Do you really mean Vera Lynn or maybe Gracie Fields and Myra Lloyd!. > I would not really know, as anyone before The Beatles, Cilla Black and >Sandy Shore, is before my time, but I do recall seeing Julie Andrews, Ken >Dodd and Harry "Seagoon" in a Pantomime several times. > I will leave it to you to explain what a "Panto' is!. > Tony D. > > >At 12:22 PM 9/19/02 -0700, Geoff Spenceley wrote: > >>Hello Steve and Tony, >> >>Thanks for the input, I think Steve, that you are correct in your surmisal, >>particularly #2 which is why the model of the KGV is actually heavier >>that the scaling down from the prototype would indicate.. >> >>Tony, old man, I wrote KGV!!- (NOTE! ;-) the approx weight is 78 tons >>(with water and coal in the firebox) and comes from a very comprehensive >>manual I have on Great Western 4 cyl 4-6-0s; Loco Profile 3. >> >>Now with Tony's info on the prototype Flying Scotsman; weight of the >>engine only: 96 X 2240 plus 5 X112= 215600 hefty pounds. The cube is >>6.58lbs while the The model engine weighs 4.1KG or 9lbs. Much the same >>ratio as the King--actually a little closer to the prototype, I believe >>tho I have not weighed the King. >> >>If our model weights were more to scale and therefore flimsier, my train >>wrecks would be more prototypical!! : dented boilers , smashed smoke boxes, >>collapsed cabs and a very dented wallet. As it is however, I just pick 'em >>up, back on the track and off they steam! >> >>Well??? >> >>Geoff. >> >>Geoff, >> > >> >You are correct as always. The volumes and weights should scale by the cube >> >(or cube root). >> > >> >How heavy is your 1/32 Flying Scotsman? >> > >> >Possible causes of being heavier: >> > >> >1. Denser materials in model than in prototype >> >2. Proportionately thicker sections in model than in prototype for >> >durability and to make fabrication possible >> > >> >Steve >> >>Tony wrote: According to my Ian Allan "British Railways Locospotters >>Handbook" 1955 >>Edition. >>All the A3s, (Including the Flying Scostman) introduced in 1927, weighed in >>at 96 tons 5 cwt for the engine, plus 56 Tons 6 cwt for the tender = 152 >>Tons 11 cwt. Total, genuine English tons or 341, 712 lbs, as opposed to >>lightweight USA Tons. >> Where did your 78 tons reference originate from?. >
