On 18 Jun 2015 15:40, "Curtis King" <ck...@mumbo.ca> wrote: > > >> On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Dave Cridland <d...@cridland.net> wrote: >> >> There's consensus, I would argue, given that it's extremely well supported in servers, desktop and mobile clients. In fact, finding servers that didn't support it a year ago is hard. > > > Two servers and maybe 5 clients does not make for well supported in my book.
Which two were you thinking of? Ejabberd has supported it for two years, Openfire for 18 months or so on trunk, prosody for ages. I don't know about the others, but those three account for a very high percentage of deployed domains, once one excludes Google, who don't implement anything anyway. > But, how well an extension is supported doesn’t give it special rights to skip the standardization process. > Supported isn't the same as deployed, and I'm not arguing high deployment skips the standards process. However, it does offer evidence that it works, and is desirable, and high deployment does suggest high consensus. Arguing against it on the basis that an unwritten perfect protocol would be better is a much weaker argument. > ck
