On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 08:20, Ted Husted wrote: > 12/12/2002 5:29:23 AM, Joseph Ottinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Ted Husted wrote: > >> Given the large community behind Struts, we do have our share > >> of zealots. And, I agree that people who believe Struts is > >> "42" are not being realistic. > > >I think it goes back to a lot of people - including myself - who > >think that zealots of any stripe are retarded, and people who > >don't know any better get reminded - IRC-fashion - that there are > >other alternatives. > > I think Struts may attract more than it share of zealots simply > because Craig is a friendly guy and makes people feel welcome. I > originally looked harder at Struts than other products just > because I enjoyed Craig's demeanor on the list. And, like many > others, I stuck around because people were helpful and made Struts > easier to use. When my turn came, I helped others along. The cycle > continues. People Craig and I have helped are now helping others. > (Good thing, since both of us seem swamped lately!) > > This is really the essence of "Apache marketing". We do put > community before technology. Struts isn't popular because of the > Apache name or because of economic engineering by an evil empire. > It's popular because we do things the Apache Way and put people > first. > > Of course, people outside the community can't see that, and so > wonder why Struts is the most popular framework when it is > arguably not the most powerful or easiest to grasp. > > It's popular, because, gosh, people ~like~ us =:0) > > -Ted. > >
Something else that can make a difference is "First Impressions". I mean, would you stick around if the first response you get when approaching a new community is titled "idiot.html"? http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html Whether you meant to send to the wrong list or not, first impressions are lasting impressions....hey isn't that a common phrase or something? I've witnessed several flame wars over that link. Well, at least we don't promote ill feelings here, however VI still sucks!!! ;P -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tool.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
