how do you people live without the refactoring tools
provided by IDEs like Eclipse and IntelliJ?

~Jason


--- Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I
> much prefer Emacs. 
>  'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x
> terminal (or are on 
> windows) both of them are fairly easily used through
> their toolbars ... 
> at least, I think vim has one now (or can perhaps -
> nearly certain).  I 
> suppose that's for the "mortals" among us ;-O  I
> just go for the "arcane 
> key sequences" personally - so much more efficient. 
> One nifty thing I 
> really like about Emacs is that, sometimes I can
> remember the command 
> name but not it's key sequence - and it tells you
> what the sequence is 
> once you invoke it the "long" way.  So, I can keep
> important shortcuts 
> in my head, and, when I run across a situation that
> requires me to use 
> something that I don't recall the shortcut for, I
> can invoke it manually 
> and get a referesher on what the sequence is to
> invoke it.  I really 
> like that feature :-)  It works great so long as you
> can remember the 
> "command name" or ... at least have an idea (as it
> has completion 
> assistance for commands too).
> 
> David Graham wrote:
> 
> > I like vi now that I know how to use it but why
> couldn't they put 
> > common commands at the bottom of the screen for us
> mortals?
> >
> > David 
> 
> 
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