Isn't JSF just another spec like Servlets and JSP?... Any vendor can make a JSP impl based on the spec, so they should also be able to make a JSF impl. Struts-Faces allows Struts to play with any compliant JSF implementation. If it doesn't we get to go Craig-bashing. :)
Struts plays with Servlet/JSP, it now plays with Servlet/JSP & JSF. But don't worry, as soon as there's a real sniff of vendor lock-in happening, there'll be more than a few people up in arms. Arron. BTW: I have iPlanet WebServer 4, and App Servers 2 & 6 on my resume from two separate organisations. ;) iPlanet Web Server 4 was THE java web server. Times change. AppLogic components on the old netscape app server (Kiva)?... oh yeah! > Is ASF allowed to distribute Sun JDK? Not AFAIK. > > I think main argument is license, ex: what is cost of JSF? Is it > similar to JBoss issue? > I am not against JSF integration w/Struts at all. The more the better. > > When there is only a single choice, this can't be good, standard or not. > No one has educated me with another example of ASF file link like this. > (and endorsing a replacement. Ex: On Tomcat 5 there is no files on > apache.org... use BEA, here is the jar) > I would feel better (and you would feel better for making me feel better > :-) if others were listed as integrating with Struts with any disclaimer > you want. (Ex: XYZ integrates with Struts but is not Standard to JCP > 666, but this jar here is standard). > OR: put the url link on Struts site, but the files outside of > apache.org on sf.net or wherever, so someone has a chance to think I > trust ASF but now I have linked outside of ASF. (just in case it blows up) > > Unless ASF is endorsing JSF and I .... just didt't get it. > > Looks like no one jumping to my side, therefore end of discussion. > With a large pool you will not please everyone, I am not pleased. Some > diversity is OK, so just say let me pout. > > .V > > (on technology side, majority of my revenue contribution is project > recovery, ya) > > Steve Raeburn wrote: > > Vic, > > > > The JSF Expert group includes : > > > > Specification Lead > > Ed Burns Sun Microsystems, Inc. > > Craig R. McClanahan Sun Microsystems, Inc. > > > > Expert Group > > Aligo, Inc. Apache Software Foundation > > BEA Systems Bayern, Shawn > > Bergsten, Hans Berkovitz, Joseph > > Bogaert, Mathias Borland Software Corporation > > Carapetyan, Pete Developmentor > > Documentum, Inc. Droplets, Inc. > > EDS Fujitsu Limited > > Geary, David Hewlett-Packard > > IBM ILOG > > IONA Technologies PLC Lazarus, Eric > > Macromedia, Inc. Mettu, Kumar > > Nash, Michael Netdecisions Holdings United > > Novell, Inc. Oracle > > SAS Institute Inc. Siemens AG > > Strachan, James Sun Microsystems, Inc. > > Zukowski, John A. > > > > That's a fairly representative sample of the industry, so I think we can > > definitely conclude that JSF != Sun either. > > > > If you don't think JSF is the right technical direction, then that's one > > thing, but you are undermining your argument by making this about licensing > > and Sun. > > > > Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
