Quoting Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > > Presuming a positive vote from the committers, we'd have to make a formal > > proposal to the ASF Board (like the Ant, Maven, ... communities did, so we > can > > use their proposals as a sample) and get it accepted. Included in the > proposal > > would be things like who the PMC members would be, and who we'd suggest as > the > > PMC chairperson (because this person becomes an ASF officer, it has to be > > appointed by the board). > > > > The largest issue around preparing the proposal is likely to be a > definition of > > what the scope of the project will be. > > We could dodge the bullet and just follow Cocoon precedent: define the > scope of Apache Struts to be Apache Struts :) >
So, do we invite the non-Java implementations of the same concept in, or do we say "nah, we're a Java project?" I'm not personally much interested in the non Java solutions, but a cross-language framework would be somewhat unusual. Craig > http://apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2003/board_minutes_2003_01_22.txt > > Otherwise, any language we come up with is sure to overlap with other > Apache offerings, and we end up having to create some type of frameworks > project, along the lines of the Database or Web Services projects. > > http://apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2002/board_minutes_2002_07_17.txt > > http://apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2003/board_minutes_2003_01_22.txt > > If we did decide to do something, I'm not opposed to either course. > > The former would be less work, but the latter might have greater long > term benefits. In the latter case, I suppose we'd ask Tapestry and > Turbine if they wanted to join us as frameworks.apache.org (or whatever). > > I looked over the Board status reports for db and webservices, but it's > hard to tell whether these new umbrellas are working any better than > Jakarta. If anyone is involved with the communities, and has something > to share, please do. > > On balance, I would lean toward the position that the Struts community > is large and robust enough to justify its own TLP, and see if the Board > agrees. > > One thing I would like to bring up in the context of a TLP Struts is the > idea of also hosting a php implementation of Struts. Several people have > been trying to do this (google struts php). Since php is also an Apache > product, it would be a natural thing for a top-level ASF Struts project > do to. A framework similar to Struts, Maverick, already has a php > implementation, which proves it can be done. > > Of course, there is also the matter of JSR 223 > <http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=223>. > > There is *alot* of interest in using MVC in php-land, and a Struts > implementation could help coalesce that interest into a stable community. > > -Ted. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
