I'm agree to use underscores instead of dots because effectively there are problems on some servers like Weblogic.
I think that it can be complicated to name external jars with there release number because for the developpers it is easy to replace a jar with the same name. On the other hand it was simple to have a release.txt file where are store the jar files names with there release and a link to the original project. It will be very usefull for the integration of several libraries which use different dependencies. Arnaud > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Envoyé : mercredi 10 juillet 2002 14:32 > À : Struts Users Mailing List > Objet : Re: Struts dependencies > > > Naming things with too many dots can confuse some of the > containers, so, > personally, I follow the XML conventions and use underscores, e.g. > > struts_1_1_b1.jar > > One question would be what to do about the nightly builds. These are > unreleased products and do not really get a version number until they > are released. So we might have > > struts_nb.jar > > or > > stuts_nb_20020710.jar > > We can unilaterally change our own JARS, and probably most of the > Commons JARs, since we have members on those teams. As a volunteer > organization, it's not actually possible for the ASF to "enforce" > conventions like this. None of are paid and so it can be hard > to tell us > what to do =:0). The ASF has only one stick: pull the product from > distribution by the Apache web sites -- which is not something they > would do over a packaging convention. And making the change > unilaterally, without committer involvement, would be a violation of > trust. Since we do the work, the ASF lets us make the decisions. > > What would make the biggest difference would be to submit enhancements > to the products through Bugzilla, and include a patch for > each of their > build.xml's, and also post patch to the Jakarta guidelines to the > General list reflecting how you'd like this done. > > Since this is a volunteer organization, the best way to get the > attention of the other volunteers is to do the actual work > for them =:0) > > -T. > > > > David Mulligan wrote: > > > > I'm wondering the same! > > > > Would it be possible to name the jar files like so > > > > commons-beanutils-1.4.jar > > commons-collections-2.0.jar > > commons-digester-1.3.jar > > commons-logging-1.0.1.jar > > commons-pool-1.0.jar > > struts-1.1-b1.jar > > etc? > > > > I know this isn't a struts problem and it would be a bad > idea for the struts > > > > team to start renaming the jar files from other Jakarta > projects. But would > > it be possible for all Jakarta projects to follow this > standard? That would > > make my and I'm sure a lot of other people's lives easier. > > > > Is this a bad idea, if so why? > > I know it would make the creation of build scripts a little > harder, but it > > would still be possible to create them. > > > > The other option is the META-INF/MANIFEST.MF file. > > Most jar files contain there version number in them but not all. > > For example Version 2.0 of commons-collections.jar manifest > file contains > > 'Implementation-Version: 1.1-dev' and not > 'Implementation-Version: 2.0' > > > > While struts.jar version 1.1-b1 contains > 'Implementation-Vendor: Apache > > Software Foundation' > > Would it be possible to enforce this a bit more? > > > > Just me 2 (euro) cents. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Arnaud HERITIER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:33 PM > > To: Struts-Dev (E-mail); Struts Users Mailing List (E-mail) > > Subject: Struts dependencies > > > > Hi guys. > > > > I downloaded the last nighty build of struts. > > > > I would like to know which releases of external libraries > are packaged with > > it. > > > > I already uses some libraries of jakarta commons and I > would like to know > > which one I need to upgrade. > > > > After studying the manifest of jars I listed this : > > > > commons-beanutils : 1.4 dev > > commons-collections : 2.0 > > commons-dbcp : unknown (last dev I suppose) > > commons-digester : 1.3 dev > > commons-logging : 1.0.1 dev > > commons-pool : 1.0 > > commons-services : 1.0 dev (can't find it on the jakarta > site. What it is > > ??) > > commons-validator : unknown (last dev) > > jakarta-oro : unknown > > > > Can you confirm my assumptions. > > > > Are all jars usefull for struts or are there some of them > used by some > > extensions like tiles, .. ??? > > > > Thanks a lot. > > Arnaud HERITIER > > EAI Consulting > > Sopra Group > > Tél. : +33 (0)1 53 33 44 74 > > email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Ce message est exclusivement destiné aux personnes dont > le nom figure > > ci-dessus. Il peut contenir des informations confidentielles dont la > > divulgation est à ce titre rigoureusement interdite. Dans > l'hypothèse où > > vous avez reçu ce message par erreur, merci de le renvoyer > à l'adresse > > e-mail ci-dessus et de détruire toute copie. > > > > This message may contain confidential and proprietary > material for the > > sole use of the intended recipient. Any review or > distribution by others is > > strictly prohibited. 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