No. I very specifically said that the better programmers CAN use text editors and command-line tools. This does not mean that they have to, only that they COULD use them if they choose to. I now use the Eclipse IDE for alot of my personal programming because it is like a text editor that wants to be helpful. I like the wrappers that it gives me for the compiles and junit tests, but that it keeps out of the way for the actual editing if I don't invoke any of the "helpful" intelli-wotsits.
Simon >-----Original Message----- >From: Chen, Gin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 3:49 PM >To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' >Subject: RE: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?) > > >I think your confusing personal perference with programming skill. >Thats like saying that Ted drink Sprite when most of the >better programmers >drinks Mountain Dew. >-Tim > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 4:38 PM >To: Struts Users Mailing List >Subject: [OT] Text editor usage (was RE: [OT]: What is vim?) > > >Actually, my primary point was text editor usage and >programmer ability. > >It is my personal observation that the better programmers use >text editors. >(vi or emacs or jedit or vim ... I don't care ... that's not >the argument >here). I'm not quite saying that IDEs are bad, although I'm certainly >tempted to say that some days, but programmers who CAN program >with text >editors and command-line tools are orders of magnitude better >than those who >can't. You are more than welcome to tell me that you believe >this is not so, >but I have observed it enough that, to me, it is a truism. > >Simon > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:56 PM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: RE: [OT]: What is vim? >> >> >>> > >>> >VIM (vi) beats the hell out of EMACS, unless you are a LISP >>> >weenie with a >>> >masochistic bent. And any non-dot-completion editor refines >>> >your sense of >>> >the API because it forces you to RTFM. >>> > >>> >Mark >> >>I use an ide and am referencing javadoc all the time anyways. >>I don't see >>any correlation between ide use and api ignorance. >> >>David >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
