thx Ted.
Could you perhaps give me some really strong points as to why they would
benefit from switching over to Struts or do you believe that switching over
to Struts would only merely be debatable?
I really wanna use Struts in our dev. env. :-)

--Alen


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From: "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: Help me to convince my boss to use Struts!!!


> You might take a look at Maverick.
>
> http://mavnet.sourceforge.net/
>
> It's very much like Struts, and uses a site-map, but is simpler. It is
> also available for .NET (as well as .PHP).
>
> Perhaps the Maverick.NET framework might provide a way that you could
> combine the best of both worlds. IMHO, the major benefit of MVC
> frameworks, including Struts, is the XML site map.
>
> -Ted.
>
> Alen Ribic wrote:
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > I just have had a discussion with my boss with regards to why he prefers
the
> > way of using a "push" mechanism "microsoft.xmlhttp" to return data to
> > client. (Client's browser doesn't reload when response is returned :) )
> >
> > We are based in a very MS environment as you can see but he has been
going
> > the "push" mechanism way for some time now. (ASP functions are called up
via
> > send() request function of JavaScript MS xmlhttp comp.)
> >
> > I'm trying to convince him that framework such as Struts is the answer
to
> > many of our problems.
> >
> > The main issue to him is the extra overhead constraint on bandwidth.
> > We are based in South Africa, Cape Town and the bandwidth here is quite
poor
> > hence he would like to lower the roundtrip cost.
> >
> > Example:
> > We have a system that has a tree view of data. Now as a tree, he would
like
> > to keep the previously opened branches open while the new one is pushed
into
> > the clients browser by the server hence only the newly expanded branch
will
> > be returned as a response from the server.
> >
> > Also note that he as a MS slave doesn't give a dam about platform
> > independency, not even multiple browser support. (Sad I know!)
> >
> > Also with regards to security, he implies that we run our applications
in a
> > very friendly environment, so people won't try to disable clientside
> > JavaScript validation as an example. It doesn't seem like a major issue
> > either. Development time-frame seems to be a big issue too.
> >
> > I just can seem to convince him of the actual benefits of using Struts
even
> > damn ASP.NET compared to his method of using a 2 tiered system with push
> > mechanism.
> >
> > So anyone PLEASE help me get the benefit across to him!!! I would like
to
> > put it into a table format or something for him to be able to scan
through.
> >>From some experience in Struts I have got the real feel for the benefit
of
> > using Struts / MVC based framework but I still can't seem to explain
well to
> > him the main reason why he should convert!!! :(
> >
> > Hope to hear from you guys soon.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > --Alen
> >
> >
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