Great! Thanks Susan. This is definitely something I'll be able to use. Regards, --Alen
----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Bradeen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Help me to convince my boss to use Struts!!! > Alen, > > Take a look at this ... > > http://www.strutskickstart.com/ > > There's a link in the sidebar, "Powerpoint: Selling Struts to Management", > to download a presentation that might be helpful for you. I haven't read > it myself (thankfully haven't needed to), but others on this list have > been grateful for it. > > Hope that helps, > Susan Bradeen > > On 06/26/2003 11:00:09 AM "Alen Ribic" wrote: > > > thx Ted. > > Could you perhaps give me some really strong points as to why they would > > benefit from switching over to Struts or do you believe that switching > over > > to Struts would only merely be debatable? > > I really wanna use Struts in our dev. env. :-) > > > > --Alen > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:33 PM > > Subject: Re: Help me to convince my boss to use Struts!!! > > > > > > > You might take a look at Maverick. > > > > > > http://mavnet.sourceforge.net/ > > > > > > It's very much like Struts, and uses a site-map, but is simpler. It is > > > also available for .NET (as well as .PHP). > > > > > > Perhaps the Maverick.NET framework might provide a way that you could > > > combine the best of both worlds. IMHO, the major benefit of MVC > > > frameworks, including Struts, is the XML site map. > > > > > > -Ted. > > > > > > Alen Ribic wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone > > > > > > > > I just have had a discussion with my boss with regards to why he > prefers > > the > > > > way of using a "push" mechanism "microsoft.xmlhttp" to return data > to > > > > client. (Client's browser doesn't reload when response is returned > :) ) > > > > > > > > We are based in a very MS environment as you can see but he has been > > going > > > > the "push" mechanism way for some time now. (ASP functions are > called up > > via > > > > send() request function of JavaScript MS xmlhttp comp.) > > > > > > > > I'm trying to convince him that framework such as Struts is the > answer > > to > > > > many of our problems. > > > > > > > > The main issue to him is the extra overhead constraint on bandwidth. > > > > We are based in South Africa, Cape Town and the bandwidth here is > quite > > poor > > > > hence he would like to lower the roundtrip cost. > > > > > > > > Example: > > > > We have a system that has a tree view of data. Now as a tree, he > would > > like > > > > to keep the previously opened branches open while the new one is > pushed > > into > > > > the clients browser by the server hence only the newly expanded > branch > > will > > > > be returned as a response from the server. > > > > > > > > Also note that he as a MS slave doesn't give a dam about platform > > > > independency, not even multiple browser support. (Sad I know!) > > > > > > > > Also with regards to security, he implies that we run our > applications > > in a > > > > very friendly environment, so people won't try to disable clientside > > > > JavaScript validation as an example. It doesn't seem like a major > issue > > > > either. Development time-frame seems to be a big issue too. > > > > > > > > I just can seem to convince him of the actual benefits of using > Struts > > even > > > > damn ASP.NET compared to his method of using a 2 tiered system with > push > > > > mechanism. > > > > > > > > So anyone PLEASE help me get the benefit across to him!!! I would > like > > to > > > > put it into a table format or something for him to be able to scan > > through. > > > >>From some experience in Struts I have got the real feel for the > benefit > > of > > > > using Struts / MVC based framework but I still can't seem to explain > > well to > > > > him the main reason why he should convert!!! :( > > > > > > > > Hope to hear from you guys soon. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > --Alen > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ted Husted, > > > Struts in Action <http://husted.com/struts/book.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
