Alen, Take a look at this ...
http://www.strutskickstart.com/ There's a link in the sidebar, "Powerpoint: Selling Struts to Management", to download a presentation that might be helpful for you. I haven't read it myself (thankfully haven't needed to), but others on this list have been grateful for it. Hope that helps, Susan Bradeen On 06/26/2003 11:00:09 AM "Alen Ribic" wrote: > thx Ted. > Could you perhaps give me some really strong points as to why they would > benefit from switching over to Struts or do you believe that switching over > to Struts would only merely be debatable? > I really wanna use Struts in our dev. env. :-) > > --Alen > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:33 PM > Subject: Re: Help me to convince my boss to use Struts!!! > > > > You might take a look at Maverick. > > > > http://mavnet.sourceforge.net/ > > > > It's very much like Struts, and uses a site-map, but is simpler. It is > > also available for .NET (as well as .PHP). > > > > Perhaps the Maverick.NET framework might provide a way that you could > > combine the best of both worlds. IMHO, the major benefit of MVC > > frameworks, including Struts, is the XML site map. > > > > -Ted. > > > > Alen Ribic wrote: > > > Hi Everyone > > > > > > I just have had a discussion with my boss with regards to why he prefers > the > > > way of using a "push" mechanism "microsoft.xmlhttp" to return data to > > > client. (Client's browser doesn't reload when response is returned :) ) > > > > > > We are based in a very MS environment as you can see but he has been > going > > > the "push" mechanism way for some time now. (ASP functions are called up > via > > > send() request function of JavaScript MS xmlhttp comp.) > > > > > > I'm trying to convince him that framework such as Struts is the answer > to > > > many of our problems. > > > > > > The main issue to him is the extra overhead constraint on bandwidth. > > > We are based in South Africa, Cape Town and the bandwidth here is quite > poor > > > hence he would like to lower the roundtrip cost. > > > > > > Example: > > > We have a system that has a tree view of data. Now as a tree, he would > like > > > to keep the previously opened branches open while the new one is pushed > into > > > the clients browser by the server hence only the newly expanded branch > will > > > be returned as a response from the server. > > > > > > Also note that he as a MS slave doesn't give a dam about platform > > > independency, not even multiple browser support. (Sad I know!) > > > > > > Also with regards to security, he implies that we run our applications > in a > > > very friendly environment, so people won't try to disable clientside > > > JavaScript validation as an example. It doesn't seem like a major issue > > > either. Development time-frame seems to be a big issue too. > > > > > > I just can seem to convince him of the actual benefits of using Struts > even > > > damn ASP.NET compared to his method of using a 2 tiered system with push > > > mechanism. > > > > > > So anyone PLEASE help me get the benefit across to him!!! I would like > to > > > put it into a table format or something for him to be able to scan > through. > > >>From some experience in Struts I have got the real feel for the benefit > of > > > using Struts / MVC based framework but I still can't seem to explain > well to > > > him the main reason why he should convert!!! :( > > > > > > Hope to hear from you guys soon. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > --Alen > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Ted Husted, > > Struts in Action <http://husted.com/struts/book.html> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
