Hi Andrew, Good point. Freedom of choice is very appreciated and is one the axioms of open-source community ;-) By the way, I'd like to invite all newbies and even Struts gurus to join us at #struts_users IRC channel at irc.darkmyst.org. There you can get help and meet some of the coolest guys in Struts world (myself included ;-)). You can, at least, have fun there!
Cheers, Daniel Silva. --- Andrew Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My hope was that differentiating the lists Struts might make the email load > more tractable for everyone. > > Struts gurus might very well look at a new list for newbies and choose not > to subscribe. I don't see this as a problem. Struts gurus helping newbies > is a wonderful thing, but we're all volunteers here and if the gurus would > prefer not to be on the newbie list, they should be empowered to make that > decision. > > It is true that differentiating the lists might lower the threshold for > newbie effort prior to newbie posts. However, the existing infrastructure > for encouraging everyone to think, read, Google, etc. before posting would > still be in place and could apply equally to the struts-user-newbies list. > > However, separating out a newbies list would allow newbies to helped by > those Struts gurus who are most generous, patient, or have whatever other > attributes that make them want to help newbies, while not annoying other > Struts subscribers who are less interested in this. This accommodation > might help to preserve the friendly and supportive character of the list for > newbies even as Struts continues to grow. > > What I think differentiating the lists would do is empower subscribers to > separate out the two streams and manage them independently. It feels to me > like there really are two simultaneous streams of messages on this list. > > When things get crazy at work I could choose to fail to keep up with the > struts-user-newbie list and delete the messages unread without feeling that > I was risking something I'd need to know. Or, for that matter, when things > get crazy at work I could choose to come home and see if there's someone to > be helped out on the struts-user-newbie list, letting the more demanding > struts-user material go until things settle down again. I don't know for > sure how people would use the ability to differentiate, but I think volume > on the list is sufficient that it would be worth giving subscribers this > ability. > > > My point is: will Struts gurus that participate this list subscribe to > > one more list? I think > > they are too busy for increasing their email load a bit more. > > Newbies could get a better help if, before posting to this list, they > > did homework: i mean, read > > Struts docs, Google, etc. I'm not sure about this number, it is just a > > guessing, but based on my > > experience in this list, 95% of the questions are already answered. You > > just have to find that > > answer, and that is what Google is for. > > > > My two cents. > > > > Cheers, > > Daniel Silva. > > > > > > > > --- Daniel Henrique Alves Lima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It sounds good to me ! > > > > > > Andrew Petro wrote: > > > > > > >Incidentally, have there been any thoughts on this list of > > differentiating > > > >out a struts-user-newbie list from the main struts-user list? > > > > > > > >I think it's wonderful to have a welcoming place for newbies to post > > > >questions, but I think it might also be useful to be able to > > differentiate > > > >opportunities to help out newbies / be helped as a newbie from > > > >opportunities to ask more difficult questions / discuss more advanced > > > >features of the framework. > > > > > > > >My two cents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster > > http://search.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
