Dear Dialists

I can point out that my Wenger Sundial does show hours of sunlight. Once
the position of the sun is found on the globe the declication of the sun
has been found. Then by following
the path of the sun during the day, keeping the declination constant, and
going from the eastern
horizon to the western horizon one may read off the hours that the sun is
above the local horizon.

As I recall, maritime twighlight is determined by the sun being less than 7
degrees below the horizion.
This angle may be approximately read on my dial and thus the time of total
darkness may be read.

Dan Wenger


>At 07:14 AM 9/1/99 -0400, Mac Oglesby wrote:
>>
>>I wonder what it would take to make it a sundial showing hours until dark.
>>That is, how would the time of "dark" (relative to sunset) be determined?
>
>Hi Mac,
>
>This is an excellent challenge.
>
>First, we have to define "dark". Bowditch defines Civil Twilight as 0 to -6
>degrees solar altitude, Nautical Twilight as 0 to -12 degrees and
>Astronomical Twilight as 0 to -18 degrees. This is why star gazing in the
>summer at my latitude (51) is so frustrating. We don't get the dark skies
>back until mid August. The limiting latitude for astronomical twilight on
>the solstice is 48.5 degrees.  90-23.5-18=48.5
>
>I believe you could add horizontal lines to the virtual section of a
>sundial (when the sun is below the horizon) for -6, -12 and -18 degrees and
>see where the lines intersect the hour lines. Good programs like Zonwvlak
>trap these errors but my old spreadsheet programs were quite happy to
>calculate and plot these virtual lines.
>
>The brute force numerical solution would be to use the navigators' altitude
>equation  and solve for the time angle t at altitudes of -6, -12 and -18
>degrees.
>Sin Altitude = Sin Dec * Sin Lat - Cos Dec * Cos Lat * Cos t
>
>An approximation would be to estimate how long it takes for the sun to set
>to -6, -12 and -18 degrees based on psi,the angle of the setting sun with
>the horizon. When the altitude is zero, Cos psi = Sin Lat / Cos Dec. A
>useful approximation for the setting sun is psi is  approximately equal to
>the co-latitude. The time for the sun to set is  proportional to 1/Sin psi.
>This explains why tropical sunsets are so abrupt and northern sunsets are
>so mellow. It is not just the fact that time flies when you are having fun.
>I will be expanding on this theme at the NASS conference next month with a
>presentation on "Sunset Phenomena".
>
>Or you could say it is dark when the street lights come on. When I was
>growing up in Norman Rockwell Land, when the street lights came on, it was
>dark and we all had to go home.
>
>Roger Bailey
>Walking Shadow Designs
>N 51  W 115


Daniel Lee Wenger
Santa Cruz, CA
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http://wengersundial.com
http://wengersundial.com/wengerfamily

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