On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 5:43 PM, deckrider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 04:56:48PM -0700, Mark Doliner wrote:
>> 2008/9/29 Ethan Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Mark Doliner spake unto us the following wisdom:
>> >> And so I'd like to point out that this decision negatively impacts the
>> >> virtual hosting provided by Google's Apps.  For example, when I login
>> >> my [EMAIL PROTECTED] JID using Pidgin, it looks up the srv record,
>> >> connects to talk.google.com, then presents me with a certificate
>> >> mismatch warning and asks whether I want to accept or reject the
>> >> certificate.
>> >>
>> >> And I just realized that maybe we should continue setting the connect
>> >> server to talk.google.com when users create Google Talk accounts
>> >> within Pidgin (I believe Ethan changed this a few days ago).
>> >
>> > I changed it yesterday; the reason for this is that it breaks SSL
>> > certificate verification for those with gmail.com Google Talk
>> > accounts.  Why do you think it should be re-enabled?
>>
>> Because without it Google Apps accounts show the certificate mismatch
>> warning.  This is, uh, comical.
>>
>> When I login to talk.google.com as [EMAIL PROTECTED] the certificate
>> presented is for talk.google.com.
>> When I login to talk.google.com as [EMAIL PROTECTED] the
>> certificate presented is for gmail.com.
>> When I login to talk.google.com as [EMAIL PROTECTED] the
>> certificate presented is for googlemail.com.
>>
>> Maybe we should do this:
>> Only set the connect server to talk.google.com when a Google Talk
>> account is created that is not @gmail.com or @googlemail.com
>
> I manage a google apps account, and I would presume, like me, those who
> do this have access to update their records like this (for example if I
> manage example.com).
>
> So do you still experience these issues when you have the following in
> your DNS, and when pidgin follows these accordingly?
>
> Or perhaps I'm missing the point of this discussion:

I think you might have missed the point of this discussion.  I believe
my DNS records are correct (I don't have all the records you do, but I
DO have the SRV records).

I'm was mostly just raising the point that there doesn't seem to be a
way for someone else's domain to virtually host a jabber server for
your domain without there being a certificate mismatch.

-Mark

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