On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 06:06:19PM -0700, Mark Doliner wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 5:43 PM, deckrider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 04:56:48PM -0700, Mark Doliner wrote:
> >> 2008/9/29 Ethan Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> > Mark Doliner spake unto us the following wisdom:
> >> >> And so I'd like to point out that this decision negatively impacts the
> >> >> virtual hosting provided by Google's Apps.  For example, when I login
> >> >> my [EMAIL PROTECTED] JID using Pidgin, it looks up the srv record,
> >> >> connects to talk.google.com, then presents me with a certificate
> >> >> mismatch warning and asks whether I want to accept or reject the
> >> >> certificate.
> >> >>
> >> >> And I just realized that maybe we should continue setting the connect
> >> >> server to talk.google.com when users create Google Talk accounts
> >> >> within Pidgin (I believe Ethan changed this a few days ago).
> >> >
> >> > I changed it yesterday; the reason for this is that it breaks SSL
> >> > certificate verification for those with gmail.com Google Talk
> >> > accounts.  Why do you think it should be re-enabled?
> >>
> >> Because without it Google Apps accounts show the certificate mismatch
> >> warning.  This is, uh, comical.
> >>
> >> When I login to talk.google.com as [EMAIL PROTECTED] the certificate
> >> presented is for talk.google.com.
> >> When I login to talk.google.com as [EMAIL PROTECTED] the
> >> certificate presented is for gmail.com.
> >> When I login to talk.google.com as [EMAIL PROTECTED] the
> >> certificate presented is for googlemail.com.
> >>
> >> Maybe we should do this:
> >> Only set the connect server to talk.google.com when a Google Talk
> >> account is created that is not @gmail.com or @googlemail.com
> >
> > I manage a google apps account, and I would presume, like me, those who
> > do this have access to update their records like this (for example if I
> > manage example.com).
> >
> > So do you still experience these issues when you have the following in
> > your DNS, and when pidgin follows these accordingly?
> >
> > Or perhaps I'm missing the point of this discussion:
> 
> I think you might have missed the point of this discussion.  I believe
> my DNS records are correct (I don't have all the records you do, but I
> DO have the SRV records).
> 
> I'm was mostly just raising the point that there doesn't seem to be a
> way for someone else's domain to virtually host a jabber server for
> your domain without there being a certificate mismatch.

Hmmmm, I was thinking that depended on what the certificate was matched
against:  if the example.com domain's DNS SRV records pointed to
talk.l.google.com and the certificate that talk.l.google.com presented
matched talk.l.google.com then I would assume that there _would_ be a
match, and everyone would be happy.


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