32 speakers in a 3m * 3m space ? Wow - I'd love to see some pictures if you
get a chance !

On 15 October 2015 at 11:21, Steven Boardman <boardroomout...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am currently replacing my 32 passive speaker array with genelec 6010s.
> These are a cheaper alternative, that are still in stock in a lot of
> places. They have exactly the same spec, but unbalanced connections. Which
> won't be a problem for small runs. The spl will be fine for a smaller room
> like  mine. It is 3m x 3m. If the protection is a problem roll the
> crossover higher and get more subs. I currently have 4, but if bass
> directionality suffers with a higher crossover, I will increase the number
> and put some higher.
>
> Good luck
>
> Steve
> On 15 Oct 2015 10:32, "Sebastian Gabler" <sebastiangab...@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> > That's specifically true for the 8010s. Their max SPL @ 1 m is app. 105
> dB
> > per pair, but the long term SPL is only 91 dB, expressly stated that it
> is
> > because of the protection circuit in the manual.
> > That being said, with 32 speakers, the SPL is 4 time higher than for 2.
> > That's far beyond comfort zone for any listener for the specified values.
> >
> > Sebastian
> >
> > Am 15.10.2015 um 10:38 schrieb Dave Malham:
> >
> >> One thing I would be careful of on small, active speakers is the
> >> protection
> >> circuits. Sophisticated protection circuits thermally model (or even
> >> sense)
> >> the drivers and reduce the gain if one of them is getting near the
> limits.
> >> This can cause weird, signal dependent, image distortions when one of
> the
> >> speakers is driven harder and drops in gain (usually in the bass).
> Because
> >> the speaker doesn't just switch off, which you would hear, but simply
> goes
> >> a bit quieter, in an Ambisonic array of, say, 16 speakers, this doesn't
> >> shout out at you but just subtly distorts the image. Can be a really
> >> annoying and difficult to diagnose problem, especially when you haven't
> >> heard it before (been there, done that, got the T-shirt). With passive
> >> speakers, this doesn't happen - you just get the rattle from the cone
> >> hitting the endstops or the scrape of the melted voice coil against the
> >> sides of the air gap but at least the first of these warns you when you
> >> are
> >> near to damaging the speakers. Note that with small active speakers in
> >> particular, getting to 'normal' monitoring levels gets you right into
> the
> >> zone where the protection will keep cutting in and out :-(
> >>
> >>     Dave
> >>
> >>
> >> On 14 October 2015 at 18:20, Charles Veasey <charlesjvea...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> We're upgrading our current 15.2 (Behringer) loudspeaker array. I'd
> like
> >>> to
> >>> get more spatial resolution and higher quality speakers. Right now I'm
> >>> thinking about (32) Genelec 8010 and (2) Genelec 7050B subs.
> >>>
> >>> However, I have some concerns about the Genelec 8010s selling at only
> >>> $350.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have experience with these speakers, or have advice for my
> >>> situation?
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>> Charles
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