Plan A is more or less my backup. I'm fairly confident that I can get
that working. For my needs the verticality is more important up than
down, I would say, but it's a good point that the amount of complexity
might make it a better option for my plans next week.

I'll keep digging for a hemispherical layout though. Still not found a
single example yet.

Thanks for all the help!

- martin


On 9 February 2016 at 22:18, Michael Chapman <s...@mchapman.com> wrote:
>
> Firstly, I've never got beyond twelve (two stacked hexagons), so
> ignore my comments at your _non_-peril ;-)>
>
> It strikes me, that it all depends on what you want from height :
>
> Your initial proposal was with the base ring at ear height.
> If your vertical 'stuff' is equally 'up' and 'down' you'd be better off
> with an octagon on the floor and another the same distance above ear
> height (plan A).
>
> If the vertical 'stuff' is both complex/essential _and_ all (/almost all)
> 'up' then a hemisphere sounds a better option (plan B).
>
> Plan A is theoretically 'easy peasy', but from my experience still quite
> fiddly (and time-consuming) to set up.
> Plan B s far more 'cutting edge' (both in mechanical set-up, but not least
> in decoding, ...).
>
> If this is :
> -(sort of) your first time
> -in a few days time
> -without a dress rehearsal
> then I'd lean towards Plan A.
>
> But, hey, with that sort of caution we'd never have discovered America   .
>  .  .
>
> Good luck,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>> Thanks for all the responses. Much appreciated.
>>
>> I'll re-phrase the question in light of some of the answers I've been
>> given.
>>
>> I will be using third-order Ambisonics. My aim mostly is to experiment
>> to get a good sense of what is possible with Ambisonics with height. I
>> have experimented successfully with 8-channel planar Ambisonics some
>> time ago. My primary intent is to spatialise multiple monophonic
>> (synthesised) sources using 3rd-order Ambisonics spatialisation, and
>> the playback of mixed sources (spatialised monphonic and stereophonic
>> sources as well as B-format 4-channel recordings.)
>>
>> At this moment in time, I have the opportunity to deploy (next week) a
>> 16-channel array, so I would like some advice on a configuration that
>> would be a good start to experiment with Ambisonics with height.
>> Someone suggested that I consult the wikipedia page on Ambisonics.
>> That is indeed where I got the idea that an "upper hemisphere" setup
>> might be suitable, since I only have on this occasion 16 speakers.
>> There is however no suggestion as to what a suitable hemispherical
>> configuration might be for a 16-speaker array, which is why I asked my
>> original question.
>>
>> So let me ask a new question. Given the constraint that I can only use
>> 16 speakers at the moment, and that I need to deploy this next week,
>> can somehow point me in the direction of what might be a suitable and
>> reasonable geometric configuration to try out? It seems to me that the
>> only really practical options here are two stacked rings (stacked
>> octagons) or a hemisphere. I would have thought that the hemisphere
>> would be the better choice, and in my scenario, a full lighting rig
>> allows me theoretically speaking to have speakers at the required
>> positions.
>>
>> Again, thank you for all the responses.
>>
>> - martin
>>
>>
>> On 8 February 2016 at 15:19, Martin Dupras <martindup...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm intending to try setting up a 16-speaker Ambisonics array next
>>> week in a small TV studio. I'm trying to figure out the practical
>>> arrangements for setting up the speakers. I was wondering if anyone
>>> with experience might be able to offer some advice or point me in the
>>> right direction?
>>>
>>> What I'm planning at the moment is a half-sphere arrangement which
>>> would likely consist of:
>>>
>>> - 8 speakers in a circle of radius 2m at a height of approximately 1.6m
>>> - 6 speakers in a smaller circle at an elevation of 45 degrees
>>> - 2 speakers at an elevation of approximately 75 degrees
>>>
>>> Alternatively, I would be happy with an arrangement similar to the
>>> first 16-speakers in this diagramme:
>>> http://www.matthiaskronlachner.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/loudspeaker-plan-observatory.jpg
>>>
>>> I've been trying to find out if there is a convention or "most usual"
>>> arrangement but couldn't find anything. I'm not particularly attached
>>> to the actual arrangement, I just want to find an arrangement that
>>> will work well enough with 16 speakers. Any advice?
>>>
>>> The other thing I would welcome is advice on how to mount the speakers
>>> to lighting rigs in a manner that is practical enough to offer some
>>> good compromise between precision and ease of setup. I believe the
>>> speakers we'll be using for the upper tiers will be Genelec 8060s.
>>>
>>> Many thanks. Any advice will be greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> - martin
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