Well DBAP is just amplitude panning on irregular speaker arrays the ones ive used it didnt reall matte rwhat direction the speaker was pointing. Im not sure if Spat specifies speaker directions but if I remember when Thibaut Carpentier came to Sarc he did show us some flashy spatial reverbs that did take account of which direction the sound source was pointing. You could banghim an email and see what he says ,
On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 at 17:08, Jonathan Kawchuk <jonathan.kawc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks so much Augustine! I’m actually taking a lot of existing 3d signals > and trying to squish them into this irregular 12 channel setup. HOA and 7.1 > mostly as well as signals from Sound Particles so SPAT Revolution has been > helpful (though ICST looks amazing), even though Im not automating movement > at that point. Trying to keep as much of the workflow channel based as > possible. > > 1. There seems to be an issue with directionality of speakers in SPAT when > I select DBAP. Some point left and others point right when really I want > them all to point towards the floor. Is this just a user interface problem? > Does DBAP treat speakers as omnidirectional? > 2. Good to know about not using delays for non-sweet spot dependant > projects. Would same go with normalization? > 3. Fantastic about REW. Do you know of any tools that can figure out the > coordinates of irregular speakers just from a sweep or test signal so I > dont have to measure irregular speaker installations by hand? > > Also looking at GRM Spaces > > rew > > Thanks so much, > > Jon > On Aug 18, 2019, 5:26 AM -0600, Augustine Leudar < > augustineleu...@gmail.com>, wrote: > > also you could use rew to eq each individual speaker. There's not much > > point time aligning DBAP because time align to where ? The beuaty of > using > > amplitude panning with irregualr speaker arrays is that there's no sweet > > spot, especially for walk through installations. > > > > On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 at 12:23, Augustine Leudar < > augustineleu...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > *should say "the software doesn't know you've placed the speakers in a > > > line not a circle" > > > Its a crude work around - but it works if you dont have time to learn > > > ICST. You can also try jamona. > > > > > > On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 at 12:21, Augustine Leudar < > augustineleu...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I use ICST in MAx MSP for irregular speaker arrays and it works fine > even > > > > though it says its "Ambisonics equivelant panning" if you reduce the > > > > directivity it basically works like a form of DBAP. It works really > well, > > > > Ive made sound sfly through mazes and up and down buildings with it. > You > > > > can even use a normal octaphonic panner to make things fly in a > straight > > > > line - at the end of the day the sound is traveling from one speaker > to the > > > > next - the software doesnt know youve placed the software in a line > rather > > > > than a circle. > > > > > > > > On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 at 23:33, Jonathan Kawchuk < > > > > jonathan.kawc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I’m having a bit of trouble setting up a SPAT Revolution session > for an > > > > > irregular speaker array. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. I am working with an irregular array of speakers for an > installation > > > > > (see attached, speakers numbered 1-12). The speakers are in a long > hallway > > > > > and are irregularly placed in the x, y, and z planed though always > > > > > overhead. I would like to have sound move with each walker as they > pass > > > > > through the hallway by automating sound to move at average human > walking > > > > > speed. I am using Speaker 7 as an origin point (0, 0, 0). > > > > > > > > > > A. Which is the correct pan law to use? I have tried DBAP and KNN > but > > > > > the diagram of each speaker seems to be pointing in the wrong > direction, > > > > > esp. at the origin. I would like the speakers to point down > towards the > > > > > floor. > > > > > > > > > > B. Is it advised to select a single speaker as the origin point? > > > > > > > > > > 2. I have taken surround impulse responses from an array of 7 > speakers > > > > > in a surround setup approx 19m from the origin. The microphone > array was > > > > > 7+4 (height) at 1m from the origin. If spatializing in SPAT, would > I make > > > > > the convolved signal 19m from the origin (where the speakers > played the > > > > > sweep) or 1m (where the microphone array was). > > > > > > > > > > 3. In either case, would I compute speaker alignment or normalize? > > > > > > > > > > 4. Are you aware of any products that can calculate multichannel > > > > > irregular speaker distances/correction curves from a test signal? > Something > > > > > like sonarworks or genelec SAM but not proprietary and with the > ability to > > > > > calculate actual speaker positions from test signals rather than > having to > > > > > scan the room (which I currently do using matterport) or measure > by hand. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks so much, > > > > > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > URL: < > > > > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190817/6e4ed719/attachment.html > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > Name: Arts Common Sound Install.pdf > > > > > Type: application/octet-stream > > > > > Size: 123847 bytes > > > > > Desc: not available > > > > > URL: < > > > > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190817/6e4ed719/attachment.obj > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Sursound mailing list > > > > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe > here, > > > > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dr. Augustine Leudar > > > > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > > > > Company Number : NI635217 > > > > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > > > > Belfast BT88LL > > > > www.magikdoor.net > > > > +44(0)7555784775 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Dr. Augustine Leudar > > > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > > > Company Number : NI635217 > > > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > > > Belfast BT88LL > > > www.magikdoor.net > > > +44(0)7555784775 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Augustine Leudar > > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > > Company Number : NI635217 > > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > > Belfast BT88LL > > www.magikdoor.net > > +44(0)7555784775 > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190818/0fadb311/attachment.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190818/4fdecc3a/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- Dr. Augustine Leudar Artistic Director Magik Door LTD Company Number : NI635217 Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, Belfast BT88LL www.magikdoor.net +44(0)7555784775 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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