What has this aviation stuff to do with surround sound? 

Sigmund G.

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Le mercredi 22 février 2023 à 14:27, Rudy Chalupa <rudo...@aol.com> a écrit :


> Hi Stefan,
> The layperson's explanation: If you are flying by visual flight rules 
> (typically a small plane with no instruments)(or you ignore your instruments) 
> and you cannot see the horizon (clouds, night), you can get into a situation 
> where the plane begins to bank (turn) but you don't know it (due to gravity 
> plus centrifugal force still pulling you toward the floor). In this case the 
> plane will spiral ever tighter and lower until it reaches the ground while 
> you are all the while convinced you are flying straight and level.
> Hope this helps!
> Rudy ChalupaPleiades Audio + Electronics
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt
> 
> To: Surround Sound discussion group sursound@music.vt.edu
> 
> Sent: Tue, Feb 21, 2023 7:50 pm
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] So long CIPIC HRTF?
> 
> Maybe it is me who now really would need some crash course in aviation, but:
> 
> Is flying in a spiral not something you would do in some intentional way?
> 
> (Opposite to the spin situation, because this is kind of uncontrolled.
> Or you "have to do something".)
> 
> So in which sense would you have to "recover" from the spiral?
> 
> I read this before, btw:
> 
> "But whoever cares, really? We all know what we're talking about.
> Especially when you have to use the instrument in order to deliver
> yourself and your passengers from a death spiral."
> 
> So what is this spiral? A situation when the plane is spinning, even a
> stall (interruption of air flow), or what else?
> 
> (Please enlighten me, and then I will ask Anders H. "what to do". ;-)
> 
> Best,
> 
> Stefan
> 
> ----- Mensagem de Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org ---------
> 
> 
> Data: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 21:45:38 +0100
> 
> De: Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org
> 
> 
> Assunto: Re: [Sursound] So long CIPIC HRTF?
> 
> Para: sursound@music.vt.edu
> 
> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 07:08:51PM +0000, Stefan Schreiber wrote:
> > 
> > > I am just “sharing” what a Swedish pilot and aviation engineer wrote to 
> > > me,
> > > 
> > > discussing and clarifying your problem(s)... ;-)
> > 
> > We were not discussing spins, either upright or inverted.
> > 
> > A 'spiral', very different from any spin, was mentioned,
> > 
> > and Sampo seemed to think that recovery from that would
> > 
> > require regaining speed. The opposite is true, as in a
> > 
> > spiral your airspeed will increase [1]. Unless you recover,
> > 
> > there are two ways in which it can end: by smashing into
> > 
> > the ground, by or structural breakdown as the result of
> > 
> > excessive speed.
> > 
> > So as part of spiral recovery, you need to reduce speed.
> > 
> > [1] As it will during any turn, unless you compensate
> > 
> > by pulling the stick to maintain altitude.
> > 
> > Ciao,
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > FA
> > 
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