Any 24 hour by 7 day a week by 365 days a year full-time operation has a
significantly high level of hand holding of the folks on it and the
equipment need to make it work properly. The administration of Days's
idea of a geographically diverse not for profit cooperative being
moderately successful has the same statistical chance of happening as
most folks of not hurting themselves when jumping off a ten story
building onto a concrete sidewalk.

I speak from personal experience of having operated a wireline DOS-based
store & forward BBS communication system with nearly two hundred users
who were 24 x 7 x 365 public safety and news media folks. We did it for
nine (9) years. I know a heck of a lot more about getting out of bed at
3:00 am to go to the local FBI office to fix the stuff than Day Brown
has ever experienced with his Day-dreaming fantasy.

John Oram

Bob George wrote:
>
> The perl script known as "Day Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  [...]
> > As for installing more software, as in the proposal for spam filters,
> > I have seen that I can install anything I want on a dos system with
> > little or no risk to the kernel, and even if it is damaged, repair
> > is quick and simple. But I have seen trying to install something in
> > Linux completely trash the drive. It may very well be that I dont
> > properly understand how to install linux apps, but in that case, it
> > may very well be that I am too stupid and lazy to read and properly
> > understand the documentation, and not lucid enough to locate the
> > right sources. Of course, this is also complicated by the habit I
> > got from dos where the documentation came with the app and was on
> > my own drive, readily available.
>
> OK gang, while the latest iteration of the program had some initial promise,
> it's broken down into meandering from topic to topic, only now withing a few
> sentences. I'm afraid that this is old, tired ground. Surely the program
> could monitor slashdot and a few other news sources and at least come up
> with something that remotely supported its position once in a while. The
> constant "DOS never broke, but Linux is frail" thread is silly, and
> completely shatters the illusion that there's anything generating the
> message.
>
> > whereas with linux apps, what seems to be happening is that they are
> > only offering documentation online, which means that you havta fill
> > out a form, and make yourself even more subject to spam. no thanx.
> > I have not had good luck with that.
>
> If this were even moderately true, the program would seem lifelike. As it
> is, it fails the Turing test badly on this point alone. Any fool can find a
> wealth of information on Linux without ever encountering a web form. And
> most of it can be read with a text-only browser to boot.
>
> > What I would advocate is a global user co-op, which like the BBS
> > nets, was actually owned by the sysops and users rather than some
> > non-personal organization in it for the money. I live in a rural
> > area, and see that our local co-op electric utility has delivered
> > electricity at far lower rates than most folks pay. This time of
> > year, with the hydro full of winter rain, we even sell what we
> > dont need, and our rates run about 4 cents/kwh.
>
> Just do it. :) I think the AI wants to build a global, cooperative network,
> with global reach, providing cheap access to all users. Hmmm... I've heard
> that before.
>
> > A coop ISP/Internet could do the same; make access between the user
> > base unimpeded, with every source of every post identified as to
> > just who sent it. The users, rather than the profit centered ISP
> > and the advertisers, would have control over who had access. It
> > would be a very competitive system, for without the spam, the
> > bandwidth pipes from the backbone to the user would be gonzo cheaper.
>
> Economies of no scale? Yeah, THAT'S it! OK, this one's amusing.
>
> - Bob
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