It's really funny that they claim a 10-24% increase in milage and HP 
yet the emitions are cut by 70-80%. To me, it just doesn't seem to be 
right. 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> extraordinary claims, require extraordinary evidence. notice how 
they get
> all upset when you ask them to prove it. especially when it's not 
evidence
> that they themselves have seen, but are parroting from someone else.
> 
> "so and so told me", or "I saw a video" doesn't cut it. show me peer
> reviewed science that proves the claims, explains the science, or 
shut up
> about this crap.
> 
> It's heartening to see that some folks can still think logically, 
and not
> get caught up in the "religious fervor".
> 
> 
> Steve Spence
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 11:42 AM
> Subject: [biofuel] Re: magnets in fuel line.
> 
> 
> > In some of the test that claim they got better milage and such, 
some
> > investigations found out that the people tuned the engine up after
> > the put the magnets on then ran the 2nd part of the test..
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > It's amazing that the people still buy into the magnet stuff. 
The
> > > EPA
> > > > has test all the "magic magnet" devices and even some of
> > > > those "magicals metal ionizing pipes (just an aluminum pipe" 
and
> > > > other means of boosting you ecomony. The EPA only found one
> > device
> > > > based on magnets that show any difference, but it was small 
boost
> > > > like maybe 1%, which I think was a fluke. Remember, if the
> > company
> > > > say it's EPA certified, it's BS.
> > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "beeteljeuse beelzebub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > EPA tests are the biggest jokes known in history. I was
> > involuntarily
> > > detained once via highway patrol by an EPA test. They were 
checking
> > > emissions on early and late model vehicles. When they got to 
mine,
> > > they checked it once, scratched their heads and did it again.
> > > They ran the test a third time and asked me to pop open my hood.
> > They
> > > feverishly checked everything under the sun to find out what I 
had
> > > altered to get such low readings, but could not find anything 
out
> > of
> > > the ordinary. It was a stone-cold stock '68 Plymouth Valient 
that
> > > with absolutely no emissions controls, that was getting 
extremely
> > > lower emissions than that of brand new cars that were being 
checked.
> > > There are many things on the EPA lists of things that "do not 
work"
> > > that we have found benifits.
> > > You say that they have tested "all the "magic magnet" devices".
> > > I say "impossible". There are some that a select few people even
> > know
> > > about that are in the trial stages now. How does EPA test 
those??
> > > EPA is not God. Trust them like you would the oil and gas 
crooks.
> > >
> > > The man that did the magnet test on the gen set paid over 
$10,000
> > on
> > > a professional gas analyser to test emissions and air/fuel 
ratios.
> > >
> > > Here is a quote from my previous post that no one seemed to 
comment
> > > about.
> > >
> > > The AFR was adjusted and a further
> > > > > test run performed. This time the engine went for 36 min. 
The
> > AFR
> > > > was
> > > > > meassured as being 21.5/1.
> > > > > When the magnets where removed, with the engine still 
running,
> > > the > HC
> > > > > reading went up immidiately from 41ppm to 66 ppm. Something 
is
> > >
> > > going
> > > > > on for there sure.
> > >
> > > As for the air/fuel ratio, it was obtained by his own 
invention. A
> > > vaporizing carburetor that he plans to market in the near 
future.
> > > Also note the HC readings measured in "parts per million" goes 
down
> > > after removing the magnets. It does not take a rocket scientist 
or
> > an
> > > EPA goon to notice that, like the man said, "Something is going 
on
> > > for sure."
> > > Driving conditions did not come into play with this test and the
> > > generator was under the same load in all the testing.
> > >
> > > Have Fun,
> > > Sam
> >
> >
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