In some of the test that claim they got better milage and such, some 
investigations found out that the people tuned the engine up after 
the put the magnets on then ran the 2nd part of the test.. 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > It's amazing that the people still buy into the magnet stuff. The 
> EPA 
> > has test all the "magic magnet" devices and even some of 
> > those "magicals metal ionizing pipes (just an aluminum pipe" and 
> > other means of boosting you ecomony. The EPA only found one 
device 
> > based on magnets that show any difference, but it was small boost 
> > like maybe 1%, which I think was a fluke. Remember, if the 
company 
> > say it's EPA certified, it's BS.  
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "beeteljeuse beelzebub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> EPA tests are the biggest jokes known in history. I was 
involuntarily 
> detained once via highway patrol by an EPA test. They were checking 
> emissions on early and late model vehicles. When they got to mine, 
> they checked it once, scratched their heads and did it again. 
> They ran the test a third time and asked me to pop open my hood. 
They 
> feverishly checked everything under the sun to find out what I had 
> altered to get such low readings, but could not find anything out 
of 
> the ordinary. It was a stone-cold stock '68 Plymouth Valient that 
> with absolutely no emissions controls, that was getting extremely 
> lower emissions than that of brand new cars that were being checked.
> There are many things on the EPA lists of things that "do not work" 
> that we have found benifits.
> You say that they have tested "all the "magic magnet" devices". 
> I say "impossible". There are some that a select few people even 
know 
> about that are in the trial stages now. How does EPA test those??
> EPA is not God. Trust them like you would the oil and gas crooks.
> 
> The man that did the magnet test on the gen set paid over $10,000 
on 
> a professional gas analyser to test emissions and air/fuel ratios.
> 
> Here is a quote from my previous post that no one seemed to comment 
> about.
> 
> The AFR was adjusted and a further 
> > > test run performed. This time the engine went for 36 min. The 
AFR 
> > was 
> > > meassured as being 21.5/1. 
> > > When the magnets where removed, with the engine still running, 
> the > HC 
> > > reading went up immidiately from 41ppm to 66 ppm. Something is 
> 
> going 
> > > on for there sure.
> 
> As for the air/fuel ratio, it was obtained by his own invention. A 
> vaporizing carburetor that he plans to market in the near future. 
> Also note the HC readings measured in "parts per million" goes down 
> after removing the magnets. It does not take a rocket scientist or 
an 
> EPA goon to notice that, like the man said, "Something is going on 
> for sure."
> Driving conditions did not come into play with this test and the 
> generator was under the same load in all the testing.
> 
> Have Fun,
> Sam


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