Dana Linscott wrote: >Keith, > >I have stated that my only requirement for providing >likely solutions to YBD is for them to take primary >responsibility for the situation. Without doing so no >solution is possible.
Whatever that might mean - not very much to me, I'm afraid. There are always possibilities, this side of the Styx. Doesn't help your cred much when you say stuff like that. >As far as I know YBD is the only BD producer that has >the problem So far. >and posting possible solutions to this >particular one in a public forum would negate several >of them. > >I don't deal in "magical remedies" only practical >solutions. My practical experience is a great deal >more than completing an in depth business plan for a >small scale biodiesel plant...as well you know Keith. So is mine. Oh well, that didn't teach us much. >As far as "rabble rouser" or "ranting fanatic" I have >not used either of those terms to characterize HS or >yourself... "You probably don't ever intend to "fight the Oppressive Government" either...You just intend to encourage others to do it. Hmmmmmmm........everything makes a bit more sense now." - From: Dana Linscott, reply to Harmon Seaver, 17 Feb 2002, "Re: [biofuel] Sloppiest made biodiesel won't hurt engines or pollute" "You are ranting. I suspect that you have never attempted to set up any kind of production facility in the US...or any other country with regulation." - From: Dana Linscott, reply to Keith Addison, 14 Feb 2002, "Re: [biofuel] Re: EPA?/consider the alternative" "... it seems now you are, at least temporarily, the most fanatical of posters regarding this subject." - From: Dana Linscott, reply to Keith Addison, 15 Feb 2002, "Re: [biofuel] Re: EPA?/consider the alternative" >though I think Harmon revealed more than he >intended to with his "necklace" post. I admit to being >abrasive but don't think I have felt the need to >resort to name calling... The one on 14 Feb was in response to my first post to you on this subject, and it was unprovoked. What I'd said was mild enough and reasonable and has been said by others. Not ranting. I wasn't struck by the insult (as you've just noted, my skin is thick), so much as by the inappropriateness of it. >I could be wrong. If you can >find the quotes I owe you an apology. For myself, as I said, it's the issues I care about, not personal attacks, so feel free, but I suspect there may be rather a number of people you might owe an apology to, and, by now, vice versa. All so unnecessary, such a distraction from the issue at hand. >I realize that >sometimes folks just need to vent...but had hoped I >was not that frustrated yet myself. In that case, as my other post just suggested, you should examine yourself closely. >My offer to YBD is still open. As you keep saying, but you're being unreasonable. The context you've provided would put anyone off, as has been remarked, and you won't specify what you're offering. Other people have simply approached him direct and offered their help, no big deal. Glenn's just done that, as you know. Why don't you? Is it a matter of pride, that he must do the asking? How do you know he's even on this list? He hasn't posted here for months. But, as you wish. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Osaka, Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ >Dana > >--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A couple more points: > > > > Dana Linscott wrote: > > > > >--- Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Dana said: > > > > > > > > > In this case I > > > > > offerred my profssional services Gratis or > > more > > > > > accuratly for the price of accepting primary > > > > > responsability. > > > > <snip> > > > > >As for why YBD would contact me to ask for help > > after > > >all my "irresponsible and damaging > > statements...about > > >biodiesel" I supose because they might wish to hear > > a > > >point of view other than "the evil govt" one that > > many > > >seem to think will help somehow. I have practical > > >advice from practical experience for practically no > > >coast. > > > > So you keep saying, but you don't specify what this > > magical remedy > > might be. The general scepticism is hardly > > surprising. The more so as > > you say it's from your own practical experience, but > > you also said > > that what that practical experience amounted to was > > the conclusion > > that running a small-scale biodiesel operation just > > isn't worthwhile. > > So what's the big secret, why all the mystery? Is > > it really that > > confidential? If you know anything that can be of > > use to small-scale > > producers, why not share it with the list? Others > > have made their > > suggestions openly, why not you? > > > > Also this, from "[biofuel] Re: Biofuel bungling" etc > > etc: > > > > <snip> > > > > >Don't worry...I think that Keith will not cut me > > off > > >the list as he balances his own strong beliefs with > > >his innate belief in allowing others to share > > >theirs... > > > > There's no contradiction, no need to "balance" or > > juggle anything. I > > wouldn't even agree that they're "beliefs". > > > > If you think there's any doubt about whether or not > > I'd kick someone > > off the list because their views differ from mine, > > well, I'll leave > > you to your doubts. Harmon's a rabble-rouser and I'm > > a chauvinist, > > LOL. And an idealist, it seems. What else was I? A > > ranting fanatic, > > wasn't it? No wonder you think there's a chance I > > might kick you out. > > Feel free, Dana, no skin off my nose. > > > > Keith Addison > > Journey to Forever > > Handmade Projects > > Osaka, Japan > > http://journeytoforever.org/ > > > > > > <snip> > > > > >Dana ------------------------ Yahoo! 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