>Ok .. so maybe not YOU personally!!! (LOL) > >But this air car thread was going around this list >(ok, SEEMINGLY) like the panacea of the oil crisis .. >the solution to "all our problems" ... etc .. etc. > >And that general feel is what made me go ... > >...HUH???????????????????????? > >Curtis
Hi Curtis I think it's the third time it's been discussed here, pretty similar each time. I liked Hakan's post on it a couple of days ago, that made good sense to me. http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=16624&list=BIOFUEL As far as hydrogen is concerned, I much agree with Steve about the difference between an air leak and a hydrogen leak, also it seems most hydrogen is intended to come from or via fossil fuels. And hydrogen is difficult to contain, it eats its way out. Range isn't everything - what's the average car journey distance in the US? I bet it's not much. Certainly a great many journeys are short-range. There's a case for zero-emission short-range vehicles in cities. Would an air car be much less efficient than an electric car? It wouldn't have the battery problem. That might offset lower efficiency, to a point. Oh, I see we had a long argument about this before too. Largely unresolved, it seems. This was quite an interesting one, from Doctor Who: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=7636&list=BIOFUEL Separate argument (row, actually) was over batteries, with a fervent EVer claiming batteries were THE recycling success story. Turned out betwen 4 and 7 million defunct car batteries a year get dumped rather than recycled in the US, where there's a good recycling infrastructure for them, unlike in Third World countries where there's no infrastructure, yet people think it's a Good Thing to install PVs. (I've seen ground-up lead-acid batteries sold to farmers as "zinc fertilizer".) Anyhow, efficiency isn't the be-all and end-all either, it depends on the particular function or purpose. Using lots of a non-transportable fuel to make a much smaller amount of transportable fuel might be a negative in terms of energy efficiency, but a positive in terms of energy value. If the result is zero-emission (at the tailpipe anyway), that adds another value. I'm not convinced the air car's such a dumb idea. It was supposed to launch in South Africa this year. Any news on that? Once it gets into use somewhere it could possibly be developed quite a lot further. Best Keith >--- Steve Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Who is giving it a green light? It's only slightly >less dumb than hydrogen. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/