At 09:13 AM 10/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Keith Addison wrote:
>
> > Now what does all that remind me of? Weak. If there were a smoking
> > gun we'd definitely know all about it beyond any doubt. Just oil. And
> > politics. The two hopelessly confused as ever, when it comes to the
> > US.
>
>I agree with you about oil and politics being hopelessly intertwined, and
>that oil (along with political gain) does have too much to do with our
>current motivation towards going after Iraq. But, there ARE other valid
>reasons as well. Do you know anyone from Iraq? I work with a physicist who
>fled Iraq with his family years ago to escape. He, along with many other
>Iraqis, want Saddam ousted from power, and a true democratic government
>established. His regime is a regime of terror - not only threatening
>Israel and the US, but also neighboring countries, and killing large
>numbers of people within Iraq because of their ethnicity, religion, or
>just to test some weapons.
>
>If Germany had large oil reserves, then back in 1941 would you have been
>saying that we shouldn't get involved militarily in what was going on in
>Europe, because our motivation must be based strictly on oil, since there
>is oil there?

You said so also and it was a courageous president who helped Europe,
behind the back of the congress and senate. Not until Japan attacked you
because of ? (yes oil), you got involved in the second world war. It might 
also
be a surprise to you that Soviet lost 100 on every allied soldier killed and
that US contributed with 10% of the allied forces. But after the war my 
generation
benefited from great entertainment and a fantastic time, we enjoyed very much
all the war movies that showed US single handed winning the second world
war in Europe.

It was the great production capacity of US and the oil, that saved Europe and
we are always in debt to US. Because it saved Europe in the end, not Hollywood
heroes. US have been a great friend to Europe, that is for sure.

I am not saying this because I am against US in any way, I am on the record of
being very positive and worked many years with US. I am saying this because it
is the truth and must be said.


>The fact is, some people are just plain evil (malicious, egocentric, and
>dangerous).
>
>Personally, I don't think our first priority right now should be going
>after Saddam. It should be securing the cold war era nukes and fissionable
>material (that are relatively poorly guarded) in the countries of the
>former Soviet Union, to try to prevent the MANY countries/organizations
>that want to get their hands on it from doing so. We should help Russia
>and the other countries build their economies, in exchange for letting us
>glassify all the fissionable material that's just sitting around.
>
>Mike
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>Michael S. Briggs               "Never judge a man until you've
>UNH Physics Department          walked a mile in his shoes. Then
>(603) 862-2828                  when you do judge him, you'll be
>                                 a mile away and you'll have
>                                 his shoes."
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:42 AM
> > >Subject: RE: [biofuel] The BBC has been fooled by a CIA set
> > >up...NOT
> > >
> > >
> > > > >15,000 grams, so that's 15,000/19=790 cubic centimeters. So,
> > >if it was 2
> > > > >feet long (24 inches, at 2.54 cm per inch, so 61 cm long),
> > >then the
> > > > >cross-sectional area must be 790/61=13 cm^2. So, assuming it's
> > >a cylinder,
> > > > >the radius would be slightly more than 2 cm, or a diameter of
> > >4 cm (a
> > > > >little over 1.5 inches). Yeah, that would be tough to fit
> > >under a seat.
> > > > >(sarcasm)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You wouldn't be sarcastic for long with no shielding. You left
> > >shielding out
> > > > in your eagerness to stuff it under the seat.
> > > >
> > > > Kirk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Michael S Briggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 5:37 PM
> > > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] The BBC has been fooled by a CIA set
> > >up...NOT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > OK, so what is the gamma fluence from a 15%U235 pencil 15
> > >kilos and 2 or
> > > > > so
> > > > > > feet long? Remember effective half life decreases as sample
> > >increases
> > > > > since
> > > > > > U235 is neutron sensitive. Is 15% hot enough for a bomb or
> > >just a
> > > > reactor?
> > > >
> > > > You wouldn't make a bomb with it still in 15% concentration,
> > >but there
> > > > would be enough U-235 in there to make one (you just need to
> > >separate it
> > > > out, which can be done with those centrifuges Saddam recently
> > >purchased).
> >
> > etc etc
> >
> >
> >
> > Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
> > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
> >
> > Biofuels list archives:
> > http://archive.nnytech.net/
> >
> > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address.
> > To unsubscribe, send an email to:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
>
>Biofuels list archives:
>http://archive.nnytech.net/
>
>Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address.
>To unsubscribe, send an email to:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->
Sell a Home with Ease!
http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM
---------------------------------------------------------------------~->

Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html

Biofuels list archives:
http://archive.nnytech.net/

Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address.
To unsubscribe, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 


Reply via email to