We also have vegetable oil, available at most restaurants just outside the
back door.....

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael S Briggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: The Debate Over Diesel


>
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, motie_d wrote:
>
> >  Just my personal opinion, but I think Diesels will become much more
> > acceptable when we have better fuel to run in them.
>
> We do - biodiesel. :) Unfortuntely, it's not available at pumps in many
> places, so those of us who want to use it have to either make our own or
> buy large quantities of it to store. Biodiesel is gaining popularity
> though, and actual biodiesel pumps are gradually springing up around the
> country.
>
> > I don't know what incentive may be needed to get that to happen.
> > Heavy trucks are using all that the refineries can produce now. There
> > is no incentive to clean up the fuel and expand the demand for it,
> > unless there is an acceptably higher price to be made from it.
> >   It all comes down to money!
>
> I agree. Petroleum fuels are simply way too cheap in the US. They should
> cost twice what they do (in reality, the true cost we pay is probably
> somewhere around twice the sticker price, if you factor in things like
> subsidies to oil companies, and military/economic involvement in other
> countries). But, since the subsidies and other things are paid for with
> taxes, people don't think they're really paying all that much for
> petroleum fuels.
> Double the price of petroleum fuels, and people would stop buying
> SUVs that get 12 mpg, instead looking at more fuel efficient vehicles,
> including VW's TDI (which is already selling incredibly well). Eventually,
> the other automakers would take notice, and start selling their diesels
> here as well. If petro diesel and gasoline cost $3 a gallon, then more
> people wouldn't mind paying the $2.20 or so a gallon to buy biodiesel made
> from soy. Hopefully then more companies would start making biodiesel, and
> in particular using oils other than soy (such as canola), since soybeans
> don't yield very much oil per acre.
>
> Mike
>


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