Never use ãstarting fluidä in a diesel engine. I tried starting fluid once in my 6.5 diesel G.M. Suburban. The engine spit the starter out onto the ground. My foolish mistake broke the starter, and torn out 5 teeth off my torque converter. A very expensive mistake, never again.
Harley -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Fullerton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 3:52 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather starting Well this is controversial but I have used it on occasion with much success. I spray a 3 second burst of starting fluid on the air filter element and then crank it up.. if youcant get to that then no more then 3 seconds in the intake somewhere. air getting pulled past the starting fluid carries the vapors into the cylinder where they combust quite easily. Starting fluid is a hot fuel and must be used very cautiously. If you get carried away and spray it all over youcould get in trouble esp if you have a poor electrical connection somewhere. I would use alot of caution with Gas engines and extreme caution with older gas engines that have points and condensor. Usually I recommend only using starting fluid on older diesels that are kinda worn out. If you intend to use your diesel where the air is really cold, below 15 degrees F, I would suggest that you double check your batteries. I think most diesels have two batteries to start. since cranking speed is very(did I mention VERY) VERY important in its ability to start when cold I recommend adding a 3rd battery. It cant hurt and it does help. I have 3 starting batteries in my 6.5(used tobe 6.2) '83 chevy Van. I also have 3 or 4 accessory batteries that hook into the circuit soon as I start cranking. before I went to low compression pistons I had no trouble starting this without even useing the glowplugs till it got down to about 28 degrees F. If youcant go wtih three batteries make sure the two youdo have are the biggest and the best and are preferably less then 3 years old. Good skiing. PS Never hurts to have a can of starting fluid in the trunk. Sincerely, Bryan Fullerton White Knight Gifts www.youcandobusiness.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg and April" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather starting > Were do you live? It used to be in Land Crusiers ( in Canada ) had duel > heavy duty batteries for starting. > > Here in Colorado Springs, my father was told by his mechanic to add a little > gasoline to the tank before pumping the diesel. I think that it about 1 or 2 > qts of gasoline to a tank of diesel to thin it out a fraction. He used this > method for 3-5 years before his VW was totaled. > > I have heard of a method, that uses touline, to make biodiesel easier to > start in winter, but it is only something I have heard, and not yet used my > self ( I don't own a diesel yet ). This or the gasoline method might work > for SVO or WVO as well, I don't know. > > Greg H. > > Greg H. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 08:49 > Subject: [biofuel] cold weather starting > > > > I've actually just bought my first diesel car, and this is one of my > > main concerns (as I said, I don't really know anything!) - If I go > > skiing and can't plug my car in, for the day or sometimes even for a few > > days, do you have tips on starting it when I want to get home? Is this > > something I need to worry about? Sounds like you have lots of > > experience, and I really don't know what to expect going into my first > > winter with a diesel. When I get that far, I'm also planning to mix > > biodiesel with petro diesel to reduce cold weather starting problems. Is > > that a good solution? > > > > While it may not be a real problem at all, It may be a percieved problem > > with diesel - for people like me who don't know much about it but what > > they've heard. The effect can be the same. > > > > Mike > > > > Hakan Falk wrote: > > > > >I had diesel cars the last 26 years as private vehicle, both in Sweden > and > > >after I moved to middle and southern Europe. In Sweden it was often minus > > >25 Celsius in the winter and minus 15 Celsius in Central Europe. The only > > >time I had serious problem was one time when I was skiing in Sweden and > it > > >was minus 40 Celsius for a couple of days. Had to heat it up and then put > > >20% Kerosene in the tank. Could not ski anyway, since the risk for bad > > >frostbites was too big. > > > > > >Hakan > > > > > >PS. during the same period I had gasoline company cars. > > > > > > > > >At 10:34 AM 12/10/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > >>I don't really know what I'm talking about, but from a Canadian > > >>perspective I think diesel is widely considered a "dirty" fuel (and it > > >>sounds like the truth of this is what you're researching), but also it's > > >>hard to start when it's minus 20 degrees, which is a real, if > > >>surmountable, problem in this climate - this second point would also > > >>apply to some areas in the US. > > >> > > >>Mike > > >> > > >>>>Hello All, > > >>>> > > >>>>I'm looking for a concise description of the differences between > European > > >>>>(global if you know) and US diesel fuel (BTU, Sulphur content, > refinement > > >>>>processes, etc), exhaust systems (Catalytic converters, emission > controls, > > >>>>etc), as well as any other significant combustion and/or emissions > > >>>>differences. I'm trying to put together a complete but digestible > > >>>>description of global diesel usage as well as the reasons for it's > notable > > >>>>lack of presence in the US. > > >>>> > > >>>>Thanks, > > >>>>Thom > > >>>> > > >>>Hello Thom > > >>> > > >>>Good for you. Can't help much, but these might be useful: > > >>> > > >>>"Fuel Lubricity Reviewed", Paul Lacey, Southwest Research Institute, > > >>>Steve Howell, > > >>>MARC-IV Consulting, Inc., SAE paper number 982567, International Fall > > >>> > > >>Fuels and > > >> > > >>>Lubricants Meeting and Exposition, October 19-22, 1998, San > > >>>Francisco, California. > > >>> > > >>>Lubricity Benefits > > >>>http://www.biodiesel.org/pdf_files/Lubricity.PDF > > >>> > > >>>Best > > >>> > > >>>Keith > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > >>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > >>> > > >>>Biofuels list archives: > > >>>http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > >>> > > >>>Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > >>>To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> > > >>>Your use of Yahoo! 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