MM,

What we are talking about is not biofuels in general, it is Ethanol
production from corn, as I understand it.

Hakan

At 09:38 AM 6/28/2003 -0700, you wrote:

> >
> >I think Pimentel is not important here, and I did not have him in 
> mind.  To my
> >mind what is important is the next tier of researchers who claim that while
> >biofuels may contain added energy, the net gain is not large.  I don't have
> >anyone specific in mind, except the recent Berkeley group's claim along 
> these
> >lines. Actually, in the Berkeley case, I think they even claimed a 
> Pimentel-like
> >loss of net energy.  The last time I got into an argument with someone about
> >this biofuel issue, they didn't particularly care about Pimentel.  They were
> >more concerned about the claims that biofuels add only a modest gain at 
> most.  I
> >am guessing that those claims are not much more valid than Pimentel's,
> >particularly when additional uses of the plants are taken into account, 
> but I
> >haven't looked into it, and don't expect to settle much from my armchair 
> at this
> >time.
>
>Correction: I should have said, I haven't looked into it _recently_.



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