Hi Walt
I appreciate your friendly response :)
I've added comments in the message below.

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Walt Patrick wrote:

>At 01:10 PM 10/7/03 -0400, Martin wrote:
> >It's just another way of creating hydrogen from water, while burning some
> >carbon in the process creating CO2
> >What's the big deal?
>
>       Doesn't have to be a big deal in order to serve as a handy alternative 
> in 
>some cases.
>  
>
That's true, there are many 'alternatives'.

>       Our focus here is on converting biomass to methanol, and one of the 
> things 
>that's hard to use up is sawdust. It appears from the patents that it would 
>be possible to operate that system using a fluidized bed of sawdust and 
>generate CO and H2 which would be both storable and compressible, something 
>which a mix of O2 and H2 ain't.
>       
>
That's interesting, maybe I will try that.

>       Given the new "room temp" co-catalyst methanol technology, having such 
> a 
>handy source for syngas adds a nice degree of flexibility. Especially in 
>the set-up / break down/ try it again stage.
>
>
>       I'm further intrigued with this because:
>
>       1) The process is not pressure dependent.
>
>       It's easy enough to compress a liquid to 3,000 psi; it's a whole lot 
> more 
>difficult to compress a gas to that degree. By being able to build to the 
>desired pressure within the reactor unit itself, you can get the 
>compression needed to fill aluminum scuba tanks.
>
>       I've got enough room under the bed of my pickup to easily mount eight 
> 80 
>CF  tanks, and that's a respectable amount of fuel which will get me down 
>the road quite a ways before I run out and have to switch back to purchased 
>fuel.
>
>       The key there is that by getting the first 50 miles "for free," and 
> being 
>able to switch back to propane when that runs out, I can cut down 
>considerably on the total amount of fuel which needs to be purchased.
>  
>
An electrolysis cell can compress the effluent as well, but it requires 
more energy. I think you'll find that this cell requires more energy if 
you're compressing the output to 3,000 PSI.
Any chemical reaction has factors that cause it to occur or slow down. 
The ability for the gas to "get away" (the pressure) is a driving force 
for the reaction.

>       2) The patent indicates that the process uses 35 VDC and is 
> interruptible, 
>which makes it a good match for intermittent wind power sites. It's also a 
>lot simpler design than what's needed for standard electrolysis, something 
>which helps the small user considerably.
>  
>
An electrolysis cell is interruptable as well. I don't see how it is a 
lot simpler. Do you?
electrolysis cell: two plates
aquagas (?) cell: two carbon rods + something to strike the arc and 
regulate the voltage

>       While I appreciate the skepticism, and agree that there's a lot of 
> snake 
>oil out there, I'm more than ready to give the benefit of the doubt to 
>articles that list actual patent numbers.
>
>with best wishes,
>
>Walt
>http://www.windward.org/
>
>       
>  
>




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