Hello Walt All fair enough, just want to comment on this bit:
<snip> > While I appreciate the skepticism, and agree that there's a >lot of snake >oil out there, For my part, I'm sceptical about these claims, but I'm not really negative about it, though many are, "free energy" is almost a blasphemy to some. I do believe there's an answer to the energy problem, a REAL answer, that remains to be found, but all the snake oil doesn't help at all, it discourages and hampers any real research. It's the scammers I'm against, not free energy per se. So far the scepticism's been well-founded. Look at this one, for instance, from about 18 months ago - I haven't checked the links, no need, sadly: Irish inventor says he's cracked world's energy needs Wednesday, January 23, 2002 By Kevin Smith, Reuters http://www.remnantsaints.com/AlternativeUtilities/free_energy_Ireland.htm http://www.cosmiverse.com/science01230206.html Science News Irish Inventor Constructs Free Energy Device this device is so phenomenal that it "shatters the laws of science". http://www.chennaionline.com/science/invent.asp The power of invention A multi-meter reading of the batteries' voltage before the device started up showed a total of 48.9 volts. When it was switched off, a second reading showed 51.2 volts... And a website! - and a promise: http://www.jasker.com/ Jasker Power Systems International It is our objective to launch the Jasker Power Systems technology on a global basis. Details will be posted on our web-site as they are released. And now: http://www.jasker.com/ jasker.com :: this domain is for sale www.jasker.com $600 The owners of the domain name jasker.com are accepting offers from interested parties willing to obtain ownership rights over the domain name. You can place your bid by filling out the form below. :-( You see. We had rather an interesting discussion here awhile back on what to do if you'd discovered a viable, cheap, energy source anyone could use anywhere, true energy independence - how would you handle it? How would you stop it getting bought out and locked up in a little box in back room somewhere, for instance? >I'm more than ready to give the benefit of the doubt to >articles that list actual patent numbers. "1635 - first of many English perpetual motion machine patents granted. - by 1903, 600 such patents had been granted. Free energy claimants love impressing people with patents (most people don't understand that a patent can't promise feasibility)." http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html Best Keith >with best wishes, > >Walt >http://www.windward.org/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/