At 04:28 PM 10/7/03 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Walt >I appreciate your friendly response :)
My pleasure. I'm enjoying following along. >An electrolysis cell can compress the effluent as well, but it requires >more energy. Agreed. >I think you'll find that this cell requires more energy if >you're compressing the output to 3,000 PSI. Agreed, but the use would be to consume excess wind energy and store it, so that's okay. >Any chemical reaction has factors that cause it to occur or slow down. >The ability for the gas to "get away" (the pressure) is a driving force >for the reaction. Not sure I follow you there. As I recollect, in traditional electrolysis systems, an increase in either temperature pressure results in an increase in efficiency. Within limits, of course. >> 2) The patent indicates that the process uses 35 VDC and is >> interruptible, >>which makes it a good match for intermittent wind power sites. It's also a >>lot simpler design than what's needed for standard electrolysis, something >>which helps the small user considerably. >> >> >An electrolysis cell is interruptable as well. I don't see how it is a >lot simpler. Do you? I believe I do. Part of it has to do with the need to separate the H2 from the O2 in a traditional electrolysis cell, and this patent's alleged ability to generate a non-explosive fuel gas that does not require separation. Note: the technology described in the patent is significantly different from what's shown on the website. The second big advantage is that you could drink the solution used in the patented system (a sugar/water solution is described in the patent) whereas the electrolyte used in traditional electrolysis cells is 30% KOH, a solution which requires skilled operators, special equipment and a high degree of caution and training in order to build and/or maintain the cell in working order. A third advantage is that traditional cells require that you manage two gas output flows, one of which is coming off at twice the volume of the other, and that involves two storage tanks. It's tricky to maintain and equal pressure within the cells when one element is off-gassing at twice the flow rate of the other. A forth advantage, at least for us, is that we already have a good power supply to use to test out the process in the form of our hi-freq heli-arc welder. Although they don't mention using a hi-freq pulse to initiate the arc, that's how it's done in air. FWIW, I'm part of an intentional community located on 111 acres in the woods (south central Washington state), and I have enough of a problem getting people here to comprehend the details of our gravity feed water system. Not that my fellows here are idiots, in fact they're quite bright, but anything I can do to make potentially hazardous systems "idiot proof" is generally worth doing. Thanks for the interesting questions, Walt http://www.windward.org/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
